Be glad you didn't have to work with VS 2003, that one sucked. VS 2005
is much better; one of the things I like is the integration of
(integration) testing. I think they did a nice job on that. Of course
easy for them as they just support Windows/ IE.

One of the things I hate most of working with VS.NET is not having
much source code available and in general not having as much choice of
(open source) components/ frameworks/ ... as with Java.

Eelco


On 5/23/06, Potje rode kool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think its more what you are used to(what you prefer), I am working for
some few months with .Net 2.0 with vs.net 2005 but I never got the fealing
that I got something with vs.net that I didn't have with Eclipse. But great
things happening with Netbeans, with Matise and Jackpot. With .Net you are
limited what Microsoft has to offer. You develop in vs.net and deploy on
IIS, for web application.

But what do you like so mutch about the Microsoft stuff, what is so great
about vs.net? I am asking this because I am interested.

Thanks,
Evert

 2006/5/23, VGJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
> Before we moved to Java as our primary platform at work, I had done years
of development w/ MS technologies and you can love or hate Microsoft, but
the ease of which you're able to sit down and get to work is one thing they
*have* gotten right.  The fact that it takes four months to install vs.net
on modern hardware probably says something to that, but regardless, you're
able to simply focus on your application - not like the relatively gnarly
dev environment setup w/ Java.
>
> Though I prefer Eclipse *slightly* over Netbeans I think Sun is headed in
the right direction when it comes to ease of initial setup, probably
inspired by Visual Studio.  I think most new users would find it easier to
start w/ Netbeans for this reason.  I'd be using it myself if the editor was
as nice and feature-rich as eclipse.
>
> What I'd never want to see is the monolithic consolidation of
technologies, like Microsoft has; you get one choice for app server, web
framework, etc.  If Java ever gets *that* easy than we've lost the massive
advantage of freedom of choice.
>
> Anyhow, I might blog-up a little setup guide for new users for Windows and
Linux using Wicket as the web framework.  I'll try to do that this weekend
as crunch-time will be over and I can breathe once again.
>
> Anyone else there developing on Linux?  I use Gentoo myself but I suppose
the "majority" is probably using Ubuntu by now?  Linux might be a tough one
to please a lot of people as far as setting up the JDK (though this should
get easier w/ the new license.)
>
>
> -v
>
>
> On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 08:59 +0300, Alvar Lumberg wrote:
> Basically his problem seems to be this whole J2EE hell which has
> nothing to do with wicket - like creating a webapp directory with a
> valid structure, add web.xml and so on..
>
> I suppose VGJ got the point and there most certainly is work to be
> done so building web apps in Java doesn't intimidate the hell out a of
> a Java novice.
>
> On 5/20/06, Nick Heudecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm also confused by this. What are the specific problems you're
> > encountering? The more detail you can provide, the better the wiki page
> > I'll write will be. :)
> >
> >
> > On 5/20/06, Ayodeji Aladejebi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > configuration hell with wicket? well for some of us who have tasted
> > struts, spring web flow and JSP stuffs....wicket is heaven
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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