Sure, I'd be happy to comment on that.
Some constructive criticism; there are many things that JSF does easier
and/or better (IMO) than Wicket.
1. select lists are *much* easier to populate, manipulate, and deal with. ;)
2. paging and sorting tables/grids/lists are *much, much* easier to
implement, something I wish would be made easier in Wicket. I'd do it
myself if I had time...and tried in the past...but am just not skilled
enough to do yet.
3. IDE support - both Netbeans and Eclipse have good support for JSF...it'd
be nice if the tools supported the technology in Wicket (convenience stuff).
I haven't tried the eclipse plugin but I'm not sure it would work well w/ a
MyEclipse enterprise project....and I do mostly EJB3.0 architecture.
4. Databinding - sometimes it is nice to set it and forget it...and only use
components when you need it. This of course, is contrary to Wicket...and
differs too much conceptually to do anything about.
5. Seamless capability to go stateless.
6. I can inject a session bean into a JSF 1.2 managed bean using an @EJB
annoation...quick and simple. I have to use JNDI lookups in Wicket...more
code to manage.
7. The "model" concept can be tricky in certain cases and isn't intuitive...
Things I do NOT like about JSF and therefore *still* prefer Wicket over any
other front-end that I've tried:
1. jsf-config.xml - I don't like this concept at all...it's tedious,
unintuitive, and cumbersome to manage. Why do they still believe we need
XML configuration!! This is one of my favorite things about
Wicket...simplicity.
2. JSTL - The slippery-slope of introducing business logic into your view.
3. The component model isn't simple...and it's not always consistent.
4. 1.2 is being adopted slowly and Glassfish is the only AS (that I know
of?) that offers it...and I've given up on Glassfish after a few crappy
experiences.
My overall impression of JSF vs Wicket is; sometimes in Wicket it would be
nice if some of the finer details were concealed in convenience methods or
done automatically. The first thing that comes to mind is alternating row
color. I have to write some gnarly (albeit short) code to do this in
Wicket...in JSF I just specify two css classes in a single tag attribute in
the view. There are other cases like this but you get the point - sometimes
writing separate classes and tons of code to implement something simple
could be more easily hidden. I cited paging/sorting - I still haven't
gotten this right in wicket...it's just complicated to implement...and is
trivial in JSF, ASP.NET, and other front-ends I've experienced.
Ultimately, JSF is more complicated and harder to manage...and not as rapid
to develop with as Wicket has been for me in the past. Wicket is just a
great "pick it up and run w/ it" framework w/ a short(er) learning curve.
igor.vaynberg wrote:
>
> offtopic, would like to hear about your jsf experience compared to wicket.
> anything you found better that we can improve?
>
> -igor
>
>
> On 1/10/07, V. Jenks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi all, been a long hiatus for me but I'm diving back into Wicket
>> finally.
>>
>> I'm a little rusty (was forced, against my will, to use JSF for the past
>> couple of months!) - and I've got a silly question...should be a snap.
>>
>> I've got a DropDownChoice select list on a page I simply need to fill w/
>> strings. It's not table-driven data, it's flat, and it's not represented
>> as
>> an entity/POJO...I simply need to select a single string from a list of
>> strings.
>>
>> Here's a snippet:
>>
>>
>> ..............................................................................................
>>
>> //editable entity
>> PhoneNumber number = new PhoneNumber();
>>
>> //add form
>> final Form form = new Form("editPhoneForm", new
>> CompoundPropertyModel(number));
>>
>> List<String> phoneTypeItems = new ArrayList<String>();
>> phoneTypeItems.add("office");
>> phoneTypeItems.add("cell");
>> phoneTypeItems.add("division");
>>
>> //add dropdown select form control
>> form.add(new DropDownChoice("phoneType", new Model(),
>> phoneTypeItems)
>> {
>> public String getDisplayValue(Object object)
>> {
>> return object.toString();
>> }
>>
>> public String getIdValue(Object object, int
>> index)
>> {
>> return object.toString();
>> }
>> }.setRequired(true));
>>
>>
>> ............................................................................................
>>
>> Now, when I pull up the page, it displays...all the values are there.
>> BUT...I get the value is null when the form is submitted...it isn't
>> getting
>> the value.
>>
>> I'm using JBoss/EJB3 and I get this exception:
>>
>> org.hibernate.PropertyValueException: not-null property references a null
>> or
>> transient value: com.agribeef.ed.model.PhoneNumber.phoneType
>>
>> Any suggestions? Thanks! Glad to be back!
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