the models wiki page is a perfect example of a user-contributed
documentation where core committers only reviewed and gave feedback.
-igor
On 5/3/07, Francisco Diaz Trepat - gmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Can we "vote" on this issue? can I call this an issue?
Igor gracefully pointed me to the Model article in the wiki, but this
article is mostly "Object Structure", and "How to Apply it..." but lacks a
little on how is model updated and passed throughout the framework. It
surely taught me though. :)
Is it possible to ask understood community members to divide papers or
small overview articles on different aspects like the ones listed below?
And therefore we might have some good data to compile into a nice PDF
regarding Wicket's inner workings and architecture.
With a good paper like that one, the goal would be to auto-answer
questions like this one:
"*Is it possible to use setMarkupStream to assign html to a web page?* "
(posted a minute ago by "Thomas R. Corbin")
This is a question regarding inner workings, because the Answer is some
IMarkupResourceStreamProvider, and where is this information a part from
articles on How-To's.
Wicket is Awsome, this should be written on some paper showing
architecture and core components behavior.
regards to all,
-f(t)
On 5/3/07, Matthew Kwong <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
>
> >I'm not new to Wicket, I'm using it for about a year, but there still a
> lot
> aspects obscure to me like PageMap, page versioning, details of page
> request
> cycle and so on.
>
> me too, I also think some more core concept needs more documentation,
> pro
> wicket is nice and can get you going with tables, ajax, pages,
> tabbedpanel
> etc, but 300pages does not reach to the point of explaining tons of
> stuffs,
> especially with new 1.3 features.
>
> I was waiting Wicket in action, any news still after the constructor
> changes
> drop?
>
> Matthew
>
>
> Paolo Di Tommaso wrote:
> >
> > Anyway Francisco is right, I'm also thinking that Wicket is really
> missing
> > a
> > good tutorial about core concepts.
> >
> > I'm not new to Wicket, I'm using it for about a year, but there still
> a
> > lot
> > aspects obscure to me like PageMap, page versioning, details of page
> > request
> > cycle and so on.
> >
> > Wicket is really a good framework that covers every details of the web
> > application stack (and they are many and many not just web page
> rendering
> > ..), but I'm thinking that a good tutorial about Wicket core concepts
> > would
> > be very useful to novice users as well as experts.
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > - Paolo
> >
> >
> > On 5/3/07, Igor Vaynberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> as far as models go
> >>
> >>
> >>
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WICKET/Working+with+Wicket+models
>
> >>
> >> -igor
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/3/07, Francisco Diaz Trepat - gmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I will be glad to help out in any way.
> >> >
> >> > Here are my thoughts to the community.
> >> >
> >> > If we could talk about core wiket ideas and implementations, for
> >> > instance:
> >> >
> >> > Models (Concept, interfaces, implementations)
> >> > Session
> >> > Application
> >> > Pages
> >> >
> >> > Listeners
> >> > Versioning
> >> > Request and Response Cycles
> >> >
> >> > Page Life Cycle.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The thing is, it is not the same (AT ALL) to build a wicket
> application
> >> > than it is to build a struts application (Other than struts sucks
> :P)
> >> which
> >> > are the concepts and design guidelines we should have?
> >> >
> >> > That is what I am trying to address.
> >> >
> >> > Because of my current infinite ignorance, I might not be the right
> >> > person to build this type of document.
> >> >
> >> > Although I could write some docs after I get an Idea from the Book
> >> > Pro-Wicket or Wicket-Pro (don't remember just know) and migrate to
> 1.3,
> >> > and do some other demos. I think I could start writing in about a
> month
> >> or
> >> > so.
> >> >
> >> > Other than that any thing else I could do would be nice to help
> out.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > f(t)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 5/3/07, Igor Vaynberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > i dont think we have something that is focused on the core
> >> > > architecture. if you have specific questions we will be happy to
> >> answer them
> >> > > and maybe you can compile them into a document.
> >> > >
> >> > > it is hard to find time to work specifically on high level
> >> > > documentation because this list, coding, jira, javadoc, etc take
> up a
> >> lot of
> >> > > time. by the time someone gets to a point where they have enough
> >> knowledge
> >> > > to write such docs they are usually buried in fixing bugs :)
> >> > >
> >> > > -igor
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On 5/3/07, Francisco Diaz Trepat - gmail
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > H igor, thanks, but could you be more specific. I do think I
> >> browsed
> >> > > > the wiki but couldn't find what I was looking for.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > For instance:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/documentation-index.html
> >> > > >
> >> > > > appears to list many referential "How to"'s but not core
> framework
> >> > > > architecture. I know there is a little bit in many of the
> reference
> >> samples.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > But is there a paper on module architecture and core objects.
> Other
> >> > > > than the javadoc I mean.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > francisco
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On 5/3/07, Igor Vaynberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > our wiki has links to various articles that might be of help
> to
> >> > > > > you. browsing the wiki is usually also good.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -igor
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On 5/3/07, Francisco Diaz Trepat - gmail <
> >> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hello everyone, I am about to buy this book called pro
> wicket
> >> > > > > >
> >>
<http://www.amazon.com/Pro-Wicket-Experts-Voice-Java/dp/1590597222/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-4798570-8657439?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178205890&sr=8-1
> >
> >> > > > > > .
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > But until it gets here (Argentina) would anyone point me in
> the
> >> > > > > > right direction to read something on-line.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > What I am looking for is a tutorial / reference / on-line
> book
> >> /
> >> > > > > > etc. covering the CORE, architecture, vision, a guide on
> how to
> >> structure
> >> > > > > > your design.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I have very successfully built a good enough demo, so I got
> >> > > > > > around the reference samples, some docs, and this mailing
> list.
> >> But I cannot
> >> > > > > > say at all that I know wicket.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I would very much like to learn more about its internals
> 'cause
> >> > > > > > I think that will also guide me to better designs by
> knowing
> >> more of wicket
> >> > > > > > potentials.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks in advance,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > f(t)
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > PS: Does the name wicket comes from being a real "wicked"
> as in
> >> > > > > > "cool" or "awsome" framework or from the name of the cutest
> >> EWOK on Episode
> >> > > > > > 6? XD.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
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