That's partially true, but after the session expired and the user has logged
in again, you can redirect him immediately to the place where he was when
the session expired (if that's a stateless page). It's true that this is
more an issue with sites that don't require the user to log in and that's
the case that concerns me the most.



2007/6/20, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> But even if I would accept the usability penalty of the expiring pages,
I'm
> surrounded by usability experts who will never do that. Moreover a very
long
> session timeout won't be accepted by others.

But if you require your users to be logged in, what alternatives are
left then? Even if you would use another framework, you would have to
deal with session time-outs, right?

I'm sure there are still possibilities to improve though. One of the
things that we've been talking about is to have a more recoverable
model. Like in, when a page for an internal page is not found, we
would try to construct it's bookmarkable counterpart etc. I think
we've discussing this as 'hybrib urls' and Matej has been doing some
experimentation with this. We also just need a couple of really good
ideas and use cases if we want to improve on this.

Cheers,

Eelco

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