After switching on the notification, I got 5 emails with bounce
information. 4 of them because of "user not known", i.e. the email does
not exist anymore and mailman should unsubscribe this mail after some time.
One concerns Laurence Marks with a strange "Autoreply" and the mail
contains:
AutoReply: Re: [Wien] my membership to the mailing list gets disabled
every 3weeks.eml
Betreff:
AutoReply: Re: [Wien] my membership to the mailing list gets disabled
every 3weeks
Von:
"李青坤" <liqing...@hlju.edu.cn>
Datum:
30.01.2017 17:24
An:
l-ma...@northwestern.edu
Am 30.01.2017 um 17:24 schrieb Laurence Marks:
I have a suspicion what this is, and it is something that I am
struggling with. Do any of the people who are experiencing this use
.forward, or is there a .forward within the WIEN2k subscription checking
structure?
The problem may be related to what is called DMARC policy, which breaks
the standard .forward structure. As an example of this, one of the
emails in this thread (from Lyudmilla I think) did not reach me. The
information I have is:
"Remote Server returned '<gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com
<http://gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com> #5.7.1 SMTP; 550-5.7.1
Unauthenticated email from mail.ru <http://mail.ru> is not accepted due
to domain's>'"
(The above is truncated by the server at Northwestern.) I can find this
information at Northwestern's outlook webserver which I have configured
to forward to my gmail account.
My understanding is that when the email is forwarded by northwestern.edu
<http://northwestern.edu> to my (main) gmail account, it is an address
mail.ru <http://mail.ru> being sent by northwestern.edu
<http://northwestern.edu>. Google checks with the DMARC policy of
mail.run to see if northwestern is allowed to send a mail.run email.
Since it is not, gmail rejects it.
My understanding is that .forward is problematic, and on its way out --
I have not heard of any way to repair/overcome this. If anyone does,
please let me know (although it is far from the topic of the list).
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Fabiana Da Pieve
<fabiana.dapi...@gmail.com <mailto:fabiana.dapi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Prof. Blaha
I have checked my spam inbox and no, none of the email that my gmail
account automatically archived as spam was coming from Wien2k, in
THIS last period.
However, in the past sometimes it has happened , that's true, that I
have found some emails from Wien2k in the spam box (one, or two over
more than one hundred spam email).
But considering that I am lazy in empting my spam inbox, those
one/two emails over more than one hundred were corresponding to a
period that was spanning more than 3 weeks.
So, strange that 5 or 10 bounces are generated in a period of 3
weeks (which is the frequency with which I have to renew the
membership).
In any case, the problem is not only detected by those who have a
gmail account (lyudmila has mail.ru
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mail.ru&d=CwMFaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=U_T4PL6jwANfAy4rnxTj8IUxm818jnvqKFdqWLwmqg0&m=DRJXGa8aJUZMjPZlHvMImdcRvCzSJceg5-cxviQ9e5k&s=soIag9ol_uWKwbp2vGj5YvPfAn4aCEN9KnJdavDNvvk&e=>)
Thanks for your attention
Fabiana
2017-01-30 16:49 GMT+01:00 Luis Ogando <lcoda...@gmail.com
<mailto:lcoda...@gmail.com>>:
Dear Prof. Blaha,
Unfortunately, I am facing the same problem described by Dr.
Fabiana Da Pieve.
Please, let me know if I can do anything to help.
All the best,
Luis
2017-01-30 13:34 GMT-02:00 Peter Blaha
<pbl...@theochem.tuwien.ac.at
<mailto:pbl...@theochem.tuwien.ac.at>>:
I've nothing changed recently in the mailing list
configuration, so I don't know why this should now happen
(except when your mail system has changed e.g
spam-processing, ...)
It probably comes from bounce processing, i.e. mailman
cannot send to your email addresses and gets a bounce back.
After 5 (or 10 days if it is a soft bounce) it will disable
your membership and just before, it will send you a warning.
It may have to do with your specific email accounts ? maybe
they think it is spam ... ?
Of course, I can increase the bounce level from 5 (up to
10), but for sure I want to keep it, otherwise mailman will
keep outdated addresses forever and continues to send mails
to them.
Regards
Am 30.01.2017 um 09:26 schrieb Fabiana Da Pieve:
Dear Wien2k developers
I am a pretty silent user of Wien2k since many years and
I always read
with pleasure the emails of the different users, which
sometimes are
also useful for me.
However, in the last period I get very often (every 3
weeks) an email to
confirm my membership to the mailing list, and if I do
not do it soon my
membership is cancelled the very same day.
I do not think this is normal. Or is it ?
In any case, before it was not the case. Is there
something I can do to
avoid this ?
Thank you very much for your attention
Fabiana Da Pieve
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