In what sense is it different ?

We write ELF in terms of tau's and not chi, but that should be equivalent. Check the definitions of tau_w and tau_TF as compared to chi.


What means "very different ELF" ?   Remember, we have an "all-electron ELF", where the densities near the atoms differ considerable from the pseudopotential densities.

Also: same magnetic structure, ... ?


Am 27.10.2022 um 00:11 schrieb Kateryna Foyevtsova:
Dear Prof. Blaha,

I've learned from this thread that it's now possible to calculate ELF in wien2k.

I wonder though why the ELF expression presented in the manual seems to be different from that in A. D. Becke and K. E. Edgecombe, J. Chem. Phys. 92,
5397 (1990).

Also, the ELF from wien2k is very different from the ELF calculated in Quantum Espresso, at least in the case of NdNiO2.

Thank you,
Kateryna

On 2022-10-22 03:29, Peter Blaha wrote:
Yes, you can do it.

PS: GGA+U is only correct when you use case.inm_tau (which you have
done), not with the old way with case.inm_vresp !!

Am 22.10.2022 um 11:32 schrieb reyhaneh ebrahimi:
Dear Prof. Blaha

Thank you very much for your valuable reply to me.


In the next step, I would like to compare the ELF of my compound for different values of Hubbard parameter (U) using PBE-GGA+U. Can I use the method (which I explained in my previous Email for PBE-GGA calculation) to find the effect of U on the ELF using PBE-GGA+U calculations?

According to “Re: [Wien] ELF calculation (mail-archive.com) <https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg17524.html>” and  “Re: [Wien] ELF calculation (mail-archive.com) <https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg17550.html>”, it seems that WIEN2k code can not calculate the ELF for PBE-GGA+U calculations.


Sincerely yours,

Reyhaneh Ebrahimi


On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 12:33 AM Peter Blaha <peter.bl...@tuwien.ac.at <mailto:peter.bl...@tuwien.ac.at>> wrote:

    In principle there are 2 ways how to calculate ELF.

    The "old" way was to calculate ELF directly in lapw0, but this leads to     fairly large discontinuities at RMT. This is what the old hints on the
    mailing list refer to.

    Therefore we created a couple of years later a new script (create_elf),     which calculates tau, tauw and tautf separately in the desired plane
    and
    the script forms from these 3 datasets the ELF.
    This is the recommended way and it seems you have done it ok.


    PS: If one is new to a certain approach, usually one would first try to     reproduce a calculation from literature, i.e. calculate ELF and compare     it with the plots in literature. Only if one knows how it works, one
    would apply it to the desired compound.

    Am 22.10.2022 um 00:09 schrieb reyhaneh ebrahimi:
     > Dear Prof. Blaha
     >
     > Thank you very much for your useful and prompt reply.
     >
     > Please let me explain my question more clearly.
     >
     > I am running the wien2k version 21.1 with ubuntu Linux operating
    system
     > (with version 5.4.0-47-generic), Fortran compiler, fftw-3.3.8,
     > mpich-3.2, libxc-5.0.0, and parallel_studio_xe_2020. The purpose
    of my
     > calculations is to calculate the ELF quantity for CeIn_3 . I
    attached my
     > struct file in the
     >
“https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file
<https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file>
     >
<https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file
<https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file>>”.
     > I used PBE-GGA as the XC potential. I also selected rkmax=7.0,
     > Gmax=16.0, and K-point=2000 (a mesh with 12 12 12 sizes) for my
     > calculation. Then, I run the PBE-GGA calculation using the following
     > command:
     >
     > runsp_lapw -p -so -in1ef -i 400 -cc 0.00001
     >
     > After the PBE-GGA calculation, I used the following commands in my
     > executable folder to calculate the ELF.
     >
     > cp /…/SRC_templates/case.inm_tau ./CeIn3.inm_tau (I attached this
    file
     > in
“https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file
<https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file>
     >
<https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file
<https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file>>”)
     >
     > cp /…/SRC_templates/case.in5 ./CeIn3.in5 (I attached this file in
     >
“https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file
<https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file>
     >
<https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file
<https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file>>”)
     >
     > x lapw2 -tau -p -so -up
     >
     > x lapw2 -tau -p -so -dn
     >
     > x lcore -tau -p -so -up
     >
     > x lcore -tau -p -so –dn
     >
     > x mixer -tau
     >
     > create_elf_lapw -up -VX_ELF
     >
     > The following lines are written by wien2k after the
    create_elf_lapw -up
     > -VX_ELF
     >
     > command line:
     >
     > ………………………………………………….
     >
     > Doing VX_TAU
     >
     > VAL changed to TOT in pbe.in5
     >
     > LAPW5 END
     >
     > 0.301u 0.016s 0:00.33 93.9% 0+0k 0+880io 0pf+0w
     >
     > pbe.rho_VX_TAU and pbe.rho_onedim_VX_TAU have been created
     >
     > Doing VX_TAUTF
     >
     >   LAPW0 END
     >
     > 9.613u 0.168s 0:02.58 378.6%    0+0k 0+12736io 0pf+0w
     >
     > TOT changed to VAL in pbe.in5
     >
     > LAPW5 END
     >
     > 1.987u 0.099s 0:00.57 363.1%    0+0k 0+880io 0pf+0w
     >
     > pbe.rho_VX_TAUTF and pbe.rho_onedim_VX_TAUTF have been created
     >
     > Doing VX_TAUW
     >
     >   LAPW0 END
     >
     > 9.477u 0.164s 0:02.53 380.6%    0+0k 0+12736io 0pf+0w
     >
     > TOT changed to VAL in pbe.in5
     >
     > LAPW5 END
     >
     > 2.002u 0.080s 0:00.57 364.9%    0+0k 0+880io 0pf+0w
     >
     > pbe.rho_VX_TAUW and pbe.rho_onedim_VX_TAUW have been created
     >
     > 0.015u 0.003s 0:00.01 100.0%    0+0k 0+320io 0pf+0w
     >
     > STOP create_rho
     >
     > pbe.rho and pbe.rho_onedim have been created for VX_ELF
     >
     >
     > I attached all of my output files i.e.,
     >
     > CeIn3.rho
     >
     > CeIn3.rho_VX_TAU
     >
     > CeIn3.rho_VX_TAUTF
     >
     > CeIn3.rho_VX_TAUW
     >
     > CeIn3.output5
     >
     >   in
     >
“https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file
<https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file>
     >
<https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file
<https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file>>”.
     >
     > Then we plot “CeIn3.rho” using xcrysden by “render pre-Calculated
     > Density” option in it. I attached our results “ceIn3_1” and
    “ceIn3_2” in
     > png format in the
     >
“https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file
<https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file>
     >
<https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file
<https://www.mediafire.com/file/xiudgtwovkhfddj/CeIn3-files.zip/file>>”.
     >
     > According to “[Wien] elf calculations ? (narkive.com
    <http://narkive.com>)
     >
<https://wien.zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.narkive.com/J7NvVSMs/elf-calculations <https://wien.zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.narkive.com/J7NvVSMs/elf-calculations>>”, should we also select 38 in “case.in0” and replace “NR2V” with “R2V” for our ELF calculations?
     >
     > Sincerely yours,
     >
     > Reyhaneh Ebrahimi
     >
     >
     > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 8:08 AM Peter Blaha
    <peter.bl...@tuwien.ac.at <mailto:peter.bl...@tuwien.ac.at>
     > <mailto:peter.bl...@tuwien.ac.at
    <mailto:peter.bl...@tuwien.ac.at>>> wrote:
     >
     >     The ELF is in case.rho.  Same format as a density plot with x
    lapw5.
     >     Use xcrysden (--help for syntax) for plotting.
     >
     >     Am 21.10.2022 um 13:07 schrieb reyhaneh ebrahimi:
     >      > Dear WIEN2K users,
     >      >
     >      > I would like to compare the electron localization function
    (ELF)
     >     of my
     >      > compound using PBE-GGA and PBE-GGA+U. According to section
     >     5.10.13 of
     >      > the WIEN2k-V21.1 userguide, the ELF can be calculated
    using the
     >      > “create_elf _lapw” command. But when we used this command
    after the
     >      > PBE-GGA calculation, the following sentence is written by
    WIEN2k
     >     code:
     >      >
     >      > “can be created by: cp /……./SRC_templates/case.inm_tau; x
    lapw2
     >     -tau; x
     >      > lcore -tau; x mixer -tau”
     >      >
     >      > Therefore, we copied “case.inm_tau” and “case.in5” from
    our “SRC_
     >      > templates” folder and then executed the “lapw2, lcore and
    mixer”
     >     with
     >      > “-tau” switch.
     >      >
     >      > Then, we used the  “create_elf_lapw” command:
     >      >
     >      > create_elf -VX_ELF  -up
     >      >
     >      > Our outputs are:
     >      >
     >      > case.rho
     >      >
     >      > case.rho_VX_TAU
     >      >
     >      > case.rho_VX_TAUTF
     >      >
     >      >   case.rho_VX_TAUW
     >      >
     >      > Would you please help me which of the above files is the
    output
     >     for ELF?
     >      >
     >      > According “[Wien] elf calculations ? (narkive.com
    <http://narkive.com>
     >     <http://narkive.com <http://narkive.com>>)
     >      >
     >  <https://wien.zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.narkive.com/J7NvVSMs/elf-calculations <https://wien.zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.narkive.com/J7NvVSMs/elf-calculations> <https://wien.zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.narkive.com/J7NvVSMs/elf-calculations <https://wien.zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.narkive.com/J7NvVSMs/elf-calculations>>>”, should we select 38 in case.in0 and replace NR2V by R2Vfor our ELF calculations, too?
     >      >
     >      > For PBE-GGA+U calculations, can we use the above method to
    find the
     >      > effect of U on the ELF? About “Re: [Wien] ELF calculation
     >      > (mail-archive.com <http://mail-archive.com>
    <http://mail-archive.com <http://mail-archive.com>>)
     >      >
     >  <https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg17524.html <https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg17524.html> <https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg17524.html <https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg17524.html>>>”and “Re: [Wien] ELF calculation (mail-archive.com <http://mail-archive.com> <http://mail-archive.com <http://mail-archive.com>>) <https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg17550.html <https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg17550.html> <https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg17550.html <https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg17550.html>>>”, this seems that WIEN2k code can not calculate the ELF for PBE-GGA+U calculations. If this matter is true, would you please help me to find a way to calculate the ELF for PBE-GGA+U calculations using different values of U.
     >      >
     >      > About “Re: [Wien] ELF calculation (mail-archive.com
    <http://mail-archive.com>
     >     <http://mail-archive.com <http://mail-archive.com>>)
     >      >
     >  <https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg17528.html <https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg17528.html> <https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg17528.html <https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg17528.html>>>”, It seems that using CRITIC2 code we can calculate the ELF after PBE-GGA+U calculations. Is it correct? If Yes, would you please, guide me how can I calculate the ELF after PBE-GGA+U calculationsin WIEN2k code using critic2 code?
     >      >
     >      > Thank you very much,
     >      >
     >      > Sincerely yours,
     >      >
     >      > Reyhaneh Ebrahimi
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