On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Pavlo Shevelo <pavlo.shev...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Samuel, > > That's really GREAT - we need that a lot for many "sensitive" topics.
Yes. Also for reconciling differences between sources in different languages - which often carry their own quiet biases. The Foundation is now in a position to help support this sort of work with better contacts and brainstorming (than it was 5 years ago when these ideas were first developed), but someone still needs to design and run these projects... I don't think anyone is working on these ideas at the moment. (Erik, David Strauss, Stirling -- any recent thoughts on the matter? WikiData as a concept has been worked on in various ways, but I haven't seen any discussion of this particular implementation.) > Sincerely, > > Pavlo > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com> wrote: >> The idea is to have a wiki-project with an entry for every cited >> source, author, and publication -- including critical secondary >> sources that exist only to comment on sources/authors/publications. >> >> Aggregate information about the reliability of these sources, where >> they are used, how they are discussed and linked together. >> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiTextrose >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikicite >> >> The "wikitextrose" proposal aims to gather data about these types of >> sources, and links between them. >> >> The "wikicite" proposal aims to organize citable statements on other >> wiki projects so that one can trace the origins of the idea expressed >> back to sources. >> >> SJ >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Jodi Schneider <jodi.schnei...@deri.org> >> wrote: >>> Samuel, >>> >>> This is great! >>> >>> What's the idea for a WikiCite project? >>> >>> -Jodi >>> >>> On 20 Jun 2010, at 22:44, Samuel Klein wrote: >>> >>>> Some motivation for a proper WikiCite project. --sj >>>> >>>> >>>> =============== Begin forwarded message ================== >>>> "How citation distortions create unfounded authority: analysis of a >>>> citation network" >>>> http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/339/jul20_3/b2680 >>>> >>>> >>>> Abstract: >>>> >>>> Objective -To understand belief in a specific scientific claim by >>>> studying the pattern of citations among papers stating it. >>>> >>>> Design - A complete citation network was constructed from all PubMed >>>> indexed English literature papers addressing the belief that \u03b2 >>>> amyloid, a protein accumulated in the brain in Alzheimer\u2019s >>>> disease, is produced by and injures skeletal muscle of patients with >>>> inclusion body myositis. Social network theory and graph theory were >>>> used to analyse this network. >>>> >>>> Main outcome measures - Citation bias, amplification, and invention, >>>> and their effects on determining authority. >>>> >>>> Results: >>>> The network contained 242 papers and 675 citations addressing the >>>> belief, with 220 553 citation paths supporting it. Unfounded authority >>>> was established by citation bias against papers that refuted or >>>> weakened the belief; amplification, the marked expansion of the belief >>>> system by papers presenting no data addressing it; and forms of >>>> invention such as the conversion of hypothesis into fact through >>>> citation alone. Extension of this network into text within grants >>>> funded by the National Institutes of Health >>>> and obtained through the Freedom of Information Act showed the same >>>> phenomena present and sometimes used to justify requests for funding. >>>> >>>> Conclusion: >>>> Citation is both an impartial scholarly method and a powerful form of >>>> social communication. Through distortions in its social use that >>>> include bias, amplification, and invention, citation can be used to >>>> generate >>>> information cascades resulting in unfounded authority of claims. >>>> Construction and analysis of a claim specific citation network may >>>> clarify the nature of a published belief system and expose distorted >>>> methods of social citation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l