yay!

On Mar 16, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Chitu Okoli wrote:

Sorry for the late responses; with classes, meetings, office hours, baby, and 
so on, I can't respond as fast as I'd like, but I'm really grateful for all the 
great responses.

Thanks, James for the ideas you've suggested; I summarize them thus:
* Publication date cut-off: We'll play with these and see how many we're left 
with.
* Randomize: ha ha ha
* Topic/empirical vs. conceptual/quantitative vs. qualitative: Actually, one of 
the features of our review is that we explicitly want to include non-computer 
science works in our review, many of which are conceptual, qualitative, and 
covering unusual topics (e.g. music). Any of these criteria would 
systematically exclude these articles. Unfortunately, we see that our journal 
vs. conference cut-off systematically excludes many computer science articles 
:-(
* Cited articles: We hadn't thought about this; I'll talk more about it in 
responding to Travis' thread.
* Adding more reviewers: I'll follow up on this in responding to Reid's thread.

Thanks a lot.

~ Chitu

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Sujet: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia literature review - include or    
exclude conference articles (was Request to verify articles    for Wikipedia 
literature review)
De : James Howison <ja...@howison.name><mailto:ja...@howison.name>
Pour : Research into Wikimedia content and communities
    
<wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org><mailto:wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Date : 15/03/2011 4:57 PM

I am a little sheepish; clearly you've really struggled with this, it's 
certainly a huge amount of papers.

I'm tempted to ask what happens if you cut by publication date, but I suspect 
that that doesn't help much because of the accelerating rate of publication. In 
any case not entirely sure of the justification for not including older things, 
it's not as though one stops knowing them :)

Ah, I know: randomize ;) Ok, that's not really in the spirit of a review 
article.

Have you considered cutting by some first quick pass characteristics, such as 
topic (using some framework relevant to your interests, we used 
Input-Process-Output for organizing studies of FLOSS)/empirical vs 
conceptual/perhaps even quant. vs qual.  That is, of course, a lot of work just 
there but it seems to deal with the selection bias the best. That would also 
help give a conceptual focus to the review article.

To avoid the full selection bias of excluding conferences, perhaps you could 
include only those that are cited in your journal articles? (hmmm, issues 
there, but perhaps worth thinking about; could one seek out some variant of 
"the connected set" of articles, with some cutting factor on the strength of 
linkage to bring the number down to something managable?).

Adding people to your review team is another option, I'm sure you've thought 
about that. Difficulties there are obvious (a good review goes beyond 'tagging' 
articles and conducts cross-cutting conceptually organized perspective, hard to 
coordinate or build through disconnected work).

Best wishes for the work,
James

On Mar 15, 2011, at 14:56, Chitu Okoli wrote:



James and Travis, you bring up a point that we have struggled back and forth 
with for several months. We really, really would like to include conference 
articles, but we just can't see how we could handle many more articles than 
what we've got now. We've been working on and off on this project for over two 
years now. (You can find works in progress at the link at the bottom to my 
website.) We'd like to get it done eventually, and we can only handle so many 
articles.


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