On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Samuel Klein <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I've been thinking recently that we should start this journal.  There
> isn't an obvious candidate, despite some of the amazing research that's
> been done, and the extreme
> > transparency that allows much deeper work to be done on wiki communities
> in the future.
>
> I'll gladly help and support the idea. I think that just as Mathieu
> pointed out, The Journal of Peer Production is a good candidate, since
> it is already out there and running (even if low on the radar).
>

Great.  Starting with a dedicated issue of JOPP seems like a good thing.
 The guest editors of that issue will get useful experience, and we can
test the depth of interest among submitters and reviewers, for a specific
scope of research efforts.


> One key factor in getting ISI is a community to drive the journal
>

emijrp writes:

> The idea of creating a journal just for wikis is highly seductive for
me.The "pillars" might be:
>
> * peer-reviewed, but publish a list of rejected papers and the reviewers
comments
> * open-access (CC-BY-SA)
> * ask always for the datasets and offer them to download, the same for
the developed software used in the > research
> * encourage authors to publish early, publish often (as in free software)

Yes.  All of this is important (and most could be tried out in working on a
guest issue of an existing journal)
Encouragement to publish early and often requires some new form of
publication that supports iteration and early drafts in the pubs process --
not via a separate preprint site.

> * supported by donations

This can include donations from universities and institutions whose staff
are submitting to the journal.   I suspect a young, inexpensive journal
that isn't tied to a tradition of expensie overhead could be supported by a
dozen universities that have relevant departments (like CCI and MIT,
various complexity institutes, and centers for collaborative study or
internet & society).

> And... we can open a wiki where those who want can write papers in a
collaborative and public way. You can > start a new paper with colleagues
or ask for volunteers authors interested in joining to your idea. When
> authors think that paper is finished and stable, they submit it to the
journal and it is peer-reviewed again and > published or discarded and
returned to the wiki for improvements.

That sounds like a fine intermediary, while more elaborate tech is being
discussed.   It is important to have crisply defined and uniformly
implemented peer review, not soft "after publication" peer review -- at
least for the papers that are published with the highest stamp of peer
approval.  It would be good to also have lower stamps of approval - and
archived permalinkable copies of their work - for those who simply publish
all of their work and data.

> Perhaps we may join efforts with the Wikimedia Research Newsletter? And
start a page in meta:? ; )

That would be great if WRN is interested :-)   Again, joining forces to dit
a one-time issue of an existing journal is a good way to see what it would
be like.

SJ
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