hm, sadly enough I must agree that you seem to be raising important real-life points, Dariusz. But am I getting you correctly that you think that major flaws will only be pointed out in a review if the reviewer can officially stay anonymous?
in your experience, Dariusz, does this mean reviewers feel fine in placing tons of trust in the editors and their helphands who organize the review not to tell authors who was their most brilliant reviewer? anyway, I think we need a reviewing system where fair and open criticism can flourish. in my view of the matter, there will be no one-size-fits-all because self-organized communities do have a multicultural tendency to self-organize :-) one example system that we night also discuss and try out for the Wiki Research Journal is a combination of open and closed peer review: see ACP who, in a highly specialised community, do 8 weeks of post publication public discussion http://www.atmospheric-chemistry-and- physics.net/review/review_process_and_interactive_public_discussion.html let me suggest we now go to the wiki page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Research_Ideas and continue our debate on the peer review model in a pro/contra/undecided style there and keep in mind that we are not talking about a traditional journal here but about "a new research journal about Wikis and about research done by using Wikis" http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Research_Ideas/Volunteers see you, Claudia koltzenb...@w4w.net On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:44:13 +0100, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote > no. Also, academic world may be quite small in some disciplines. If a > reviewer knows that s/he may be evaluated by the author some time in the > future (be it in a journal review, or possibly also in career promotion > reviews, too) s/he will be definitely motivated not to report any major > flaws, especially if the reviewed author is a big shot. > > Single blind review is a must. In my view, the advantages of double blind > review are also important, even if practically the actual anonymity may not > always be preserved. In double blind review the bottom line is that it > sometimes may and up as a single blind review, but in many cases it does > not and then it is more fair. > > best, > > dj > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:08 AM, <koltzenb...@w4w.net> wrote: > > > well, any attempts at pressures or bribes could easily be made known, > > couldn't they? > > > > On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:56:35 +0100, Manuel Palomo Duarte wrote > > > I don't thnk opening peer reviewing would be a good idea. Reviewer must > > > keep unknown, or she could suffer preasures (even bribes) from authors. > > In > > > my opinion only the editor must communicate with the reviewers > > > > > > 2012/11/8 <koltzenb...@w4w.net> > > > > > > > agree, > > > > ... so it is up to you as a reviewer what you do with your "blindness" > > :-) > > > > > > > > doesn't this point in the direction of - plus - is + ? > > > > I mean: why not do open peer reviewing? > > > > > > > > Claudia > > > > > > > > On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:43:39 +0100, Manuel Palomo Duarte wrote > > > > > Even more, you can easily identify the authors because usually they > > > > include > > > > > references to their previous publications to build the new > > hypothesis ... > > > > > > > > > > 2012/11/8 Adam Jenkins <adam.jenk...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > Most of my reviewing for conference and journals was double blind, > > > > > > although the effectiveness of it was always a bit questionable, as > > in > > > > many > > > > > > cases you can, as a reviewer, identify the author from the style > > and > > > > > > argument. This tends to get worse in specialised areas, where the > > pool > > > > of > > > > > > researchers is necessarily small. > > > > > > > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7 November 2012 06:16, Kerry Raymond <kerry.raym...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> I cannot speak for other disciplines but double-blind is not > > standard > > > > > >> in Computer Science. **** > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ** ** > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Kerry**** > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ** ** > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ** ** > > > > > >> > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> Wiki-research-l mailing list > > > > > >> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > > > > > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Prof. Manuel Palomo Duarte, PhD > > > > > Software Process Improvement and Formal Methods group (SPI&FM). > > > > > Degree Coordinator for Computer Science. > > > > > Department of Computer Science. > > > > > Escuela Superior de Ingenieria. > > > > > C/ Chile, 1 > > > > > 11002 - Cadiz (Spain) > > > > > University of Cadiz > > > > > http://neptuno.uca.es/~mpalomo > > > > > Tlf: (+34) 956 015483 > > > > > Mobile phone: (+34) 649 280080 > > > > > Mobile phone from University network: 45483 > > > > > Fax: (+34) 956 015139 > > > > > > > > > > Aviso legal: Este mensaje (incluyendo los ficheros adjuntos) puede > > > > contener > > > > > información confidencial, dirigida a un destinatario y objetivo > > > > específico. > > > > > Si usted no es el destinatario del mismo le pido disculpas, y le > > pido que > > > > > elimine este correo, evitando cualquier divulgación, copia o > > distribución > > > > > de su contenido, así como desarrollar o ejecutar cualquier acción > > basada > > > > en > > > > > el mismo. > > > > > -- > > > > > Legal Notice: This message (including the attached files) contains > > > > > confidential information, directed to a specific addressee and > > objective. > > > > > In case you are not the addressee of the same, I apologize. And I > > ask you > > > > > to delete this mail, and not to resend, copy or distribute its > > content, > > > > as > > > > > well as develop or execute any action based on the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks & cheers, > > > > Claudia > > > > koltzenb...@w4w.net > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > > > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Prof. Manuel Palomo Duarte, PhD > > > Software Process Improvement and Formal Methods group (SPI&FM). > > > Degree Coordinator for Computer Science. > > > Department of Computer Science. > > > Escuela Superior de Ingenieria. > > > C/ Chile, 1 > > > 11002 - Cadiz (Spain) > > > University of Cadiz > > > http://neptuno.uca.es/~mpalomo > > > Tlf: (+34) 956 015483 > > > Mobile phone: (+34) 649 280080 > > > Mobile phone from University network: 45483 > > > Fax: (+34) 956 015139 > > > > > > Aviso legal: Este mensaje (incluyendo los ficheros adjuntos) puede > > contener > > > información confidencial, dirigida a un destinatario y objetivo > > específico. > > > Si usted no es el destinatario del mismo le pido disculpas, y le pido que > > > elimine este correo, evitando cualquier divulgación, copia o distribución > > > de su contenido, así como desarrollar o ejecutar cualquier acción basada > > en > > > el mismo. > > > -- > > > Legal Notice: This message (including the attached files) contains > > > confidential information, directed to a specific addressee and objective. > > > In case you are not the addressee of the same, I apologize. And I ask you > > > to delete this mail, and not to resend, copy or distribute its content, > > as > > > well as develop or execute any action based on the same. > > > > > > thanks & cheers, > > Claudia > > koltzenb...@w4w.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > -- > > __________________________ > dr hab. Dariusz Jemielniak > profesor zarządzania > kierownik katedry Zarządzania Międzynarodowego > i centrum badawczego CROW > Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego > http://www.crow.alk.edu.pl _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
