I guess the scenario you want to protect against is this.

Reviewer is Junior Researcher, the author is a Head of School. Next year
Junior Researcher applies for job at that school and doesn't get it or
applies for a grant or ....

Kerry


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Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Journal? - Double-blind
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Manuel asks:
> In fact, what's the gain in knowing who is reviewing a paper?

let us look at this from another angle, maybe: As reviewers in open
reviewing we get a chance of becoming 
more aware of our own inclinations in the face of public visibility
vis-a-vis objectivity, well-reflected 
arguments and more transparency in general. 

Q: Why should authors of research have to bow to any authority that is
hiding its identity and tendencies? 

actually, so far I have heard no convincing arguments why in the age of open
Wikis any reviewer's identity 
should stay behind closed doors. Maybe you have another argument to convince
me?

Claudia

On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:29:25 +0100, Manuel Palomo Duarte wrote
> I don't agree. I a hard argument can be considered by some people as a
> preasure, while other could not.
> 
> In fact, what's the gain in knowing who is reviewing a paper?
> 
> 2012/11/8 <koltzenb...@w4w.net>
> 
> > well, any attempts at pressures or bribes could easily be made known,
> > couldn't they?
> >
> > On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:56:35 +0100, Manuel Palomo Duarte wrote
> > > I don't thnk opening peer reviewing would be a good idea. Reviewer
must
> > > keep unknown, or she could suffer preasures (even bribes) from
authors.
> > In
> > > my opinion only the editor must communicate with the reviewers
> > >
> > > 2012/11/8 <koltzenb...@w4w.net>
> > >
> > > > agree,
> > > > ... so it is up to you as a reviewer what you do with your
"blindness"
> > :-)
> > > >
> > > > doesn't this point in the direction of - plus - is +  ?
> > > > I mean: why not do open peer reviewing?
> > > >
> > > > Claudia
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:43:39 +0100, Manuel Palomo Duarte wrote
> > > > > Even more, you can easily identify the authors because usually
they
> > > > include
> > > > > references to their previous publications to build the new
> > hypothesis ...
> > > > >
> > > > > 2012/11/8 Adam Jenkins <adam.jenk...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > Most of my reviewing for conference and journals was double
blind,
> > > > > > although the effectiveness of it was always a bit questionable,
as
> > in
> > > > many
> > > > > > cases you can, as a reviewer, identify the author from the style
> > and
> > > > > > argument. This tends to get worse in specialised areas, where
the
> > pool
> > > > of
> > > > > > researchers is necessarily small.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Adam
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 7 November 2012 06:16, Kerry Raymond
<kerry.raym...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>  I cannot speak for other disciplines but double-blind is not
> > standard
> > > > > >> in Computer Science. ****
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> ** **
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Kerry****
> > > > > >>
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> > > > > >>
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> Degree Coordinator for Computer Science.
> Department of Computer Science.
> Escuela Superior de Ingenieria.
> C/ Chile, 1
> 11002 - Cadiz (Spain)
> University of Cadiz
> http://neptuno.uca.es/~mpalomo
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