So Piotr, if I understand you well it is about the question how many of the people who are our "contributors" according to the statistics (per 5 edits a month, or 100 edits a month) are actually vandals? I could imagine that some vandals manage to make 5 edits before being blocked, or lose interest before they are blocked, and appear in the statistics. Kind regards Ziko
2013/9/29 Piotr Konieczny <pio...@post.pl> > I know of the categories, but the problem is that they do not seem to be > comprehensive. I can estimate, based on them, that there are at least 150k > or so editors who were banned for vandalism, but it seems many vandals do > not make it into those categories, suggesting this number is underestimated. > > Still, we should be able to get some estimates. We know, for example, > that something like 5 or 6 million of accounts have made 1+ edit on > English Wikipedia. How many of them were indefinitely blocked? This should > give us some idea. > > Alternatively, we know how many accounts make an edit to Wikipedia every > given timeframe. About 100,000-120,000 editors make at least one edit to > Wikipedia each month. If we knew how many are indef blocked in that period, > that would be another useful estimate. > > > -- > Piotr Konieczny, > PhDhttp://hanyang.academia.edu/PiotrKoniecznyhttp://scholar.google.com/citations?user=gdV8_AEAAAAJhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Piotrus > > > > On 9/30/2013 11:44 AM, Stuart Yeates wrote: > > I guess it depends on whether Piotr is looking for an estimate of accounts > used for vandalism or an estimate of the people who operate them. One seems > straight forward, the other more challenging. Perhaps combining the > categories below with sock puppet investigations and some fancy stats? > > Cheers > Stuart > > On 29/09/2013, at 12:13 am, h <hant...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Piotr, > I believe that in Chinese Wikipedia, "blocked indefinitely" is a user > category called Wikipedians that are blocked indefinitely "被永久封禁的維基人" > http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:%E8%A2%AB%E6%B0%B8%E4%B9%85%E5%B0%81%E7%A6%81%E7%9A%84%E7%B6%AD%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA > Its equivalent Wikidata table has the following pages in other language > versions: > http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4616402#sitelinks-wikipedia > Language Code Linked article > English enwiki Category:Blocked historical > users<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Blocked_historical_users> > italiano itwiki Categoria:Wikipedia:Cloni > sospetti<http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Wikipedia:Cloni_sospetti> > latviešu lvwiki Kategorija:Uz nenoteiktu laiku nobloķētie > lietotāji<http://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorija:Uz_nenoteiktu_laiku_noblo%C4%B7%C4%93tie_lietot%C4%81ji> > slovenčina skwiki Kategória:Wikipédia:Natrvalo zablokovaní > používatelia<http://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kateg%C3%B3ria:Wikip%C3%A9dia:Natrvalo_zablokovan%C3%AD_pou%C5%BE%C3%ADvatelia> > česky cswiki Kategorie:Wikipedie:Natrvalo zablokovaní > uživatelé<http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Wikipedie:Natrvalo_zablokovan%C3%AD_u%C5%BEivatel%C3%A9> > български bgwiki Категория:Блокирани неприемливи потребителски > имена<http://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%91%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8_%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0> > олык марий mhrwiki Категорий:Википедий:Йӧн > петырыме<http://mhr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B9:%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B9:%D0%99%D3%A7%D0%BD_%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%8B%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC%D0%B5> > українська ukwiki Категорія:Безстроково заблоковані > користувачі<http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%96%D1%8F:%D0%91%D0%B5%D0%B7%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%96_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%87%D1%96> > 中文 zhwiki > Category:被永久封禁的維基人<http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:%E8%A2%AB%E6%B0%B8%E4%B9%85%E5%B0%81%E7%A6%81%E7%9A%84%E7%B6%AD%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA> > 日本語 jawiki Category:無期限ブロックを受けたユー > ザー<http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:%E7%84%A1%E6%9C%9F%E9%99%90%E3%83%96%E3%83%AD%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%92%E5%8F%97%E3%81%91%E3%81%9F%E3%83%A6%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B6%E3%83%BC> > > > > I hope that it helps. > Best, > han-teng liao > > > > 2013/9/29 Piotr Konieczny <pio...@post.pl> > >> Hi everyone, >> >> Another question: do we have an estimate of a vandal population? >> >> I also asked this at >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#How_many_editors_are_blocked_indefinitely.3Fbut >> so far no good estimates have been provided. >> >> -- >> Piotr Konieczny, PhD >> http://hanyang.academia.edu/PiotrKonieczny >> http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=gdV8_AEAAAAJ >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Piotrus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing > listWiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > >
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