Apologies. You're right, Han-Teng. The reviewer looks to be Piotr Konieczny
who I think is on this mailing list?

Heather Ford
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On 2 July 2014 12:58, h <hant...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Heather, I am not sure who contribute that. Probably not Nemo. If this
> issue of newsletter is correctly attributed, the contributors include: Taha
> Yasseri, Maximilian Klein, Piotr Konieczny, Kim Osman, and Tilman Bayer. My
> suggestion is only a personal one, and I am not sure if it is against
> policies to make a few edits once the newsletter is out.
>
> Thanks again to the contributors of the newsletter, my life is a bit
> easier and more interesting because of your work.
>
>
>
> 2014-07-02 15:35 GMT+07:00 Heather Ford <hfor...@gmail.com>:
>
> +1 Thanks for your really thoughtful comments, Joe, Han-Teng.
>>
>> Nemo, would you be willing to add a note to the review and/or contacting
>> the researcher?
>>
>> Best,
>> Heather.
>>
>> Heather Ford
>> Oxford Internet Institute <http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk> Doctoral Programme
>> EthnographyMatters <http://ethnographymatters.net> | Oxford Digital
>> Ethnography Group <http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/research/projects/?id=115>
>> http://hblog.org | @hfordsa <http://www.twitter.com/hfordsa>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 July 2014 05:17, h <hant...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The tone of the sentence in question
>>>
>>>     'it is disappointing that the main purpose appears to be completing
>>> a thesis, with little thought to actually improving Wikipedia'
>>>
>>> could have been written as
>>>
>>>     'It would be more useful for the Wikipedia community of practice if
>>> the author discussed or even spelled out the implications of the research
>>> for improving Wikipedia".
>>>
>>>     This suggestion is based on my own impression that [Wiki-research-l]
>>> has mainly two groups of readers: community of practice and community of
>>> knowledge. It is okay to have some group tensions for creative/critical
>>> inputs. Still, a neutral tone is better for assessment, and an encouraging
>>> tone might work a bit better to encourage others to fill the *gaps* (both
>>> practice and knowledge ones).
>>>
>>>     Also, the factors such as originally intended audience and word
>>> limits may determine how much a writer can do for *due weight* (similar to
>>> [[WP:due]]). If the original (academic) author failed to address the
>>> implications for practices satisfactory, a research newsletter contributor
>>> can point out what s/he thinks the potential/actual implications are. (My
>>> thanks to the research newsletter's voluntary contributors for their
>>> unpaid work!)
>>>
>>>     While I understand that the monthly research newsletter has its own
>>> perspective and interests different from academic newsletters, it does not
>>> sacrifice the integrity of the newsletter to be gentle and specific. I
>>> would recommend a minor edit to the sentence as the the newsletter could be
>>> read by any one in the world, not just the Wikipedians. It is
>>> public/published for all readers, and thus please do not assume the readers
>>> know the context of Wikipedia research.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> han-teng liao
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-07-01 19:37 GMT+07:00 Heather Ford <hfor...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>>  Thanks so much for the newsletter [1]! Always a great read...
>>>>
>>>> But have to just say that comments like this: 'it is disappointing that
>>>> the main purpose appears to be completing a thesis, with little
>>>> thought to actually improving Wikipedia' [2] are really harsh and a little
>>>> unfair. The student is studying Wikipedia - they can hardly only be
>>>> interested in completing their thesis. We need to remember that researchers
>>>> are at very different stages of their careers, they have very different
>>>> motivations, and different levels of engagement with the Wikipedia
>>>> community, but that *all* research on Wikipedia contributes to our
>>>> understanding (even if as a catalyst for improvements). We want to
>>>> encourage more research on Wikipedia, not attack the motivations of people
>>>> we know little about - particularly when they're just students and
>>>> particularly when this newsletter is on housed on Wikimedia Foundation's
>>>> domain.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Heather.
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2014/June
>>>>  [2]
>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2014/June#.22Recommending_reference_materials_in_context_to_facilitate_editing_Wikipedia.22
>>>>
>>>> Heather Ford
>>>> Oxford Internet Institute <http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/> Doctoral
>>>> Programme
>>>> EthnographyMatters <http://ethnographymatters.net/> | Oxford Digital
>>>> Ethnography Group <http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/research/projects/?id=115>
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>>>>
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