https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29680

--- Comment #3 from Subfader <subfa...@gmail.com> 2011-07-03 18:30:36 UTC ---
" Can you give an example of a specific category
that exhibits the issue, point out what you don't like about it, and explain
why you don't like it?"
http://www.mixesdb.com/db17/index.php/Category:Dave_Clarke (I will
password-protect the directory again after a reply)
What I don't like: In the pages section you wouldn't expect pages in the
"Chart" namespace to be listed. Instead, they should also sort by page title. 
Why I don't like it: Because users expect them to sort by title as well? "Don't
make me think!" is one of the most important rules for usability.
There might be worse examples on commons or WP, but I dunno the diversity of
categories there. I understand that on WP content pages in a category may be
mostly from teh same NS, but as you can se eon my example, there are other
wikis too besides the holy WP.
What I don't like most about all this is that there is no option anymore.

"Why isn't {{#defaultsort:{{FULLPAGENAME}}}} a good enough solution?"
Because I want this behaviour by default for all cats.
Previously there was $wgCategoryPrefixedDefaultSortkey, no I have no more
option to switch the behaviour.

I understand the argument about compability for hacks. But I'm not updating
hacks here, you force me to create one, because the option was removed.
If this behaviour is needed for the performance you got my amen, cos categories
play a major role in my wiki.

Private solution atm: I use a manual list of regex replacements in the sortkey
called in convertCategoryKey() in languages/Language.php so I remove
"^CustomNS" from the beginning of all cl_sortkeys (as well as other useful ones
like "^The\s" etc.).
It works quite well (except maintenance/refreshLinks.php not working here),
maybe it's worth to be implented?

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