https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30208
c...@edubkk.org changed:
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--- Comment #81 from c...@edubkk.org 2011-09-16 07:40:36 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> The right way to deal with this is to cut to the root of the problem: we throw
> brand-new potential editors directly into shark-infested waters, then yell at
> them for splashing at the sharks. :)
>
> I agree with the basic concern -- putting newbies right into that environment
> so easily often ends up harming everyone -- but I don't think it would be
> ideal
> to simply cut off new article creation without actually providing a safe place
> for them to go instead.
>
>
> This needs to be paired with a *really good user-friendly way* for new
> accounts
> to create provisional articles, have them reviewed, get mentored by real
> people, and get their articles moved into real article space (or at least end
> up finding something better to do in a less confrontational way than a scary
> template and speedy deletion).
>
> I would recommend at least a serious beefing up of the requests for article
> creation pages before trying this; a newbie attempting to create a new article
> definitely needs to be shepherded through some checks, and should end up with
> the opportunity to at least create a page -- even if it's in a sandbox area.
>
> (In the future, please consider actually reaching out to developers for
> feedback as well before the final stages!)
In future, please consider reading up on the 13 months of background
research for this new rule proposal and the reasons for it
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP), and take note that its
proponents have offered three parallel alternative methods for fast-tracking
the serious articles for live publication - hardly the work of a bunch of
dedicated exclusionists. This could be easily done by according a new user
right of, for example, New Page Reviewer, as is done on the German Wiki.
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