| Verdy_p added a comment. |
The request is not for adding cides that are already standard according to
BCP 47 where nrf-GG and nrf-JE arr oerfectly valid and confirming. But what
is still blocking is that "nrm" in Wikimedia has ALWAYS been valid in BCP47
but incorrectly assigned for another unrelated language. To add nrf-GG and
nrf-JE, we still need that Wikimedia renames its existing and incorrect use
of nrm to nrf. This done, we still need the two variants for Jériais and
Guernesiais and notably the first one which has official status in Jersey.
For now there's still no ISO639-3 code assigned for the two languages
(Jersiais is not locally considered as a "variant" of Norman as it has its
own official status, its own nornative dictionary. But nrf-JE and nrf-GG
are still valid and conforming substitutes, even if BCP 47 now prefers, but
does not require, using a single ISO 639 code instead of using region codes
from ISO 3166 or UN-M49.
Many but not all legacy BCP 47 codes using region codes are now replaced by
single codes from ISO 639-3 but none if these legacy codes are made invalid.
Fir now there's not even any pending request to split nrf as a
macrolanguage for its 3 variants encided separately (continental, Jeriais
and Guernesiais) so nrf is still a simple language encompadding its 3
variants so we still need to add region codes (fr, gg, je) where
distinctions are needed.
The situation however is more complex because continental norman has at
least 3 known variants and guernesiais has also a known variant for Sark.
Thrse dialectal variants are not encoded in ISO 639 so if we need them in
BCP 47 the region codes will not be enough and we would need to use variant
codes instead that have to be registered in the IANA dabase of language
subtags. As long this is not done we can still use private use extension to
the main nrf langiage code to conform to BCP47.
In all these cases we must not use nrm.
So once again rename nrm to nrf as it was requested so many years ago !
This should not need any discussion and all users want that, including
those that want to develop content in Narom and that are blocked by
Wikimedia failure on using nrm for Norman.
Le 11 juin 2017 15:52, "GerardM" <no-re...@phabricator.wikimedia.org> a
écrit :
GerardM added a comment.
Hoi,
Given that there is a Wikipedia with the wrong code, it is not possible
imho to do justice to the language. WMF has never had a reason to sort it
out, now it has. Adding codes is not appropriate under these circumstances.
Thanks,GerardM
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