What do you think about starting a project to import data from external
websites into Wikidata?
If you start an "External data import task force" I'm sure there will be
quite a lot of interest in creating a collection of modules/bots to import
data.

Looking at the project http://www.boost.org/ it also seems quite
interesting.

Micru

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Michael Hale <hale.michael...@live.com>wrote:

> I've had some discussions with people on the Mathematica Stack Exchange
> site about the project. There is interest, but most people don't seem to
> have as much free time as me. So I've decided just to start the project as
> a way to organize and integrate my own code and code that I find. I'm just
> putting it all in subpages of my Wikipedia user page for now. If I ever run
> into problems I will retreat to a more constrained mechanism. I kicked
> things off last night by adding some code for the "Solar cycle" article.
> The article has a nice chart that shows the total solar irradiance
> measurements over the past few decades, although it hasn't been updated in
> a few years. So I added some code to grab the raw data from the World
> Radiation Center in Switzerland.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wakebrdkid/Wikicode
>
> http://meta.mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/1057/collaborative-packages-organized-like-wikipedia
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hoi Michael,
>
> The one thing that makes it easy for you is that you speak English. For
> other languages there are not the same amount and diversity of resources.
> While I have my reservations about the feasibility of what Scott proposes,
> his proposal is for all the Wikipedia languages and then some.
>
> If he is able to achieve his thing "only" for the Wikipedia languages it
> will be a roaring success in my eyes.
>
> Thanks,
>       GerardM
>
>
> On 13 July 2013 09:21, Michael Hale <hale.michael...@live.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> I'm personally very interested in the future of online education, and I
> appreciate your enthusiasm about the subject. However, I wonder if your
> energy would be more productive if it was directed to an older project.
> Have you heard of Wikiversity? It is already multilingual and doesn't have
> advertisements from hosting on Wikia. However, even though I knew about
> Wikiversity when I was still in high school, I've actually been surprised
> at how little I've used it over the years. I think it is trying to solve a
> problem that I never encountered. I think learning is one of the easiest
> things to do on the internet, and it has been even easier in the
> post-Wikipedia era now that so much of the most important information has
> been well summarized, consistently formatted, and heavily linked. If I
> check my YouTube subscriptions right now, I get free, full-length lectures
> in my feed from Berkeley, Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon, Harvard, Yale,
> UCLA, Technion, UPenn, IIT Bangalore, and Cornell. I remember when MIT
> OpenCourseWare first came out, and it's been incredible to see how
> e-learning has flourished since then. I have over a hundred YouTube
> channels that are primarily educational. My needs are met if I know what
> I'm looking for or if I just want to be surprised by some current,
> stimulating educational content. The software library initiative we have
> been discussing in this thread would be a hybrid of a wiki and a regular
> source control system typically used in open source projects. Like I said,
> I can still think of several reasons why it might not work, but I keep
> finding myself thinking a few times every week that maybe we should try.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 17:58:38 -0700
> From: worlduniversityandsch...@gmail.com
>
> To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikidata
> and improved Wikicode
>
> Hi Michael and Wikidatans,
>
> I just created a beginning, wiki Software Library at World University and
> School - see Software Libraries:
> http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Software_Libraries for the initial
> resources - and added links to this in the following WUaS, wiki subjects -
>
> see the WUaS Computer Science wiki subject page for this and related links
> -
>
>
> http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Computer_Science#World_University_and_School_Links-
>
> Educational Software:
> http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Educational_Software -
>
> Library Resources: http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Library_Resources-
>
> Programming: http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Programming .
>
> WUaS, which is like Wikipedia with MIT OCW, plans to develop in all 7,105+
> languages and 204+ countries, - for open, wiki teaching and learning, in
> addition to free, C.C., MIT OCW-centric, university degrees, beginning in
> the U.N. languages after English - so not only will this extensible WUaS
> Software Libraries find form in all languages and countries, but WUaS's
> plans to move to Wikidata will make this a database. MIT-centric WUaS
> students will eventually add to, and develop, these libraries greatly I
> suspect.
>
> Best regards,
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Michael Hale <hale.michael...@live.com>wrote:
>
> I completely agree that wiki-projects are exemplary organic growth models
> compared to the way plans are made by Congress. I certainly support using
> information technology to move governments toward more direct and efficient
> forms of democracy. I would love to see things like income tax levels
> determined in real-time based on the average preferences of everyone's
> e-government web preferences. Many people still don't have internet access
> though. I think when a person comes up with a plan they typically consider
> 2 or 3 factors in a qualitative manner in their mental model of the system
> and disregard other side effects as insignificant. That paper used a model
> with 10 or so factors in a quantitative manner. There are many things it
> leaves out, but such plans are still useful as counterweights in policy
> arguments against ideas that are extreme in other directions. Regardless, a
> person couldn't design by hand the circuit layout of the processors that
> are currently in our computers and phones, and the number of problems that
> are too big for our brains that computers are helping us with is expanding.
> If we had a way to design computational models in a wiki manner then we
> could just add the irrigation and insect migration effects to the model to
> gauge its sustainability, then other people could make each part of the
> model more accurate, etc. I think it would help us find real solutions to
> many problems in a much faster way than listening to political speeches or
> exchanging paragraphs of imprecise human language on social networking
> sites.
>
>
>
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