What do you think about starting a project to import data from external websites into Wikidata? If you start an "External data import task force" I'm sure there will be quite a lot of interest in creating a collection of modules/bots to import data.
Looking at the project http://www.boost.org/ it also seems quite interesting. Micru On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Michael Hale <hale.michael...@live.com>wrote: > I've had some discussions with people on the Mathematica Stack Exchange > site about the project. There is interest, but most people don't seem to > have as much free time as me. So I've decided just to start the project as > a way to organize and integrate my own code and code that I find. I'm just > putting it all in subpages of my Wikipedia user page for now. If I ever run > into problems I will retreat to a more constrained mechanism. I kicked > things off last night by adding some code for the "Solar cycle" article. > The article has a nice chart that shows the total solar irradiance > measurements over the past few decades, although it hasn't been updated in > a few years. So I added some code to grab the raw data from the World > Radiation Center in Switzerland. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wakebrdkid/Wikicode > > http://meta.mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/1057/collaborative-packages-organized-like-wikipedia > > > > > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Gerard Meijssen < > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hoi Michael, > > The one thing that makes it easy for you is that you speak English. For > other languages there are not the same amount and diversity of resources. > While I have my reservations about the feasibility of what Scott proposes, > his proposal is for all the Wikipedia languages and then some. > > If he is able to achieve his thing "only" for the Wikipedia languages it > will be a roaring success in my eyes. > > Thanks, > GerardM > > > On 13 July 2013 09:21, Michael Hale <hale.michael...@live.com> wrote: > > Hi Scott, > > I'm personally very interested in the future of online education, and I > appreciate your enthusiasm about the subject. However, I wonder if your > energy would be more productive if it was directed to an older project. > Have you heard of Wikiversity? It is already multilingual and doesn't have > advertisements from hosting on Wikia. However, even though I knew about > Wikiversity when I was still in high school, I've actually been surprised > at how little I've used it over the years. I think it is trying to solve a > problem that I never encountered. I think learning is one of the easiest > things to do on the internet, and it has been even easier in the > post-Wikipedia era now that so much of the most important information has > been well summarized, consistently formatted, and heavily linked. If I > check my YouTube subscriptions right now, I get free, full-length lectures > in my feed from Berkeley, Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon, Harvard, Yale, > UCLA, Technion, UPenn, IIT Bangalore, and Cornell. I remember when MIT > OpenCourseWare first came out, and it's been incredible to see how > e-learning has flourished since then. I have over a hundred YouTube > channels that are primarily educational. My needs are met if I know what > I'm looking for or if I just want to be surprised by some current, > stimulating educational content. The software library initiative we have > been discussing in this thread would be a hybrid of a wiki and a regular > source control system typically used in open source projects. Like I said, > I can still think of several reasons why it might not work, but I keep > finding myself thinking a few times every week that maybe we should try. > > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 17:58:38 -0700 > From: worlduniversityandsch...@gmail.com > > To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikidata > and improved Wikicode > > Hi Michael and Wikidatans, > > I just created a beginning, wiki Software Library at World University and > School - see Software Libraries: > http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Software_Libraries for the initial > resources - and added links to this in the following WUaS, wiki subjects - > > see the WUaS Computer Science wiki subject page for this and related links > - > > > http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Computer_Science#World_University_and_School_Links- > > Educational Software: > http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Educational_Software - > > Library Resources: http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Library_Resources- > > Programming: http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Programming . > > WUaS, which is like Wikipedia with MIT OCW, plans to develop in all 7,105+ > languages and 204+ countries, - for open, wiki teaching and learning, in > addition to free, C.C., MIT OCW-centric, university degrees, beginning in > the U.N. languages after English - so not only will this extensible WUaS > Software Libraries find form in all languages and countries, but WUaS's > plans to move to Wikidata will make this a database. MIT-centric WUaS > students will eventually add to, and develop, these libraries greatly I > suspect. > > Best regards, > Scott > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Michael Hale <hale.michael...@live.com>wrote: > > I completely agree that wiki-projects are exemplary organic growth models > compared to the way plans are made by Congress. I certainly support using > information technology to move governments toward more direct and efficient > forms of democracy. I would love to see things like income tax levels > determined in real-time based on the average preferences of everyone's > e-government web preferences. Many people still don't have internet access > though. I think when a person comes up with a plan they typically consider > 2 or 3 factors in a qualitative manner in their mental model of the system > and disregard other side effects as insignificant. That paper used a model > with 10 or so factors in a quantitative manner. There are many things it > leaves out, but such plans are still useful as counterweights in policy > arguments against ideas that are extreme in other directions. Regardless, a > person couldn't design by hand the circuit layout of the processors that > are currently in our computers and phones, and the number of problems that > are too big for our brains that computers are helping us with is expanding. > If we had a way to design computational models in a wiki manner then we > could just add the irrigation and insect migration effects to the model to > gauge its sustainability, then other people could make each part of the > model more accurate, etc. I think it would help us find real solutions to > many problems in a much faster way than listening to political speeches or > exchanging paragraphs of imprecise human language on social networking > sites. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > > -- Etiamsi omnes, ego non
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