Hoi,
Exactly.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 6 June 2014 20:57, Paul Houle <ontolo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There's another road to ontology of labels which is connected with the
> kind of roles that labels play in systems.
>
> One need is that a system wants to mention something or draw something
> and otherwise refer to something and it needs to know what to call it.
> Another need is that you have a phrase and you want to find things
> with a matching label. Then there's the more general problem that the
> user has something in his head and you want to specify it.
>
> In terms of acceptance of labels you want the system to accept a wide
> range of possible names people would use for something (I think in
> Wikidata scope) but to make the most of that you need a good estimator
> of the probability that a particular surface form used in a particular
> context refers to this or that and that is probably out of scope.
>
> You want to accept labels you wouldn't want to generate. A tendency
> to generate ethnic, racial and other kinds of slurs is a showstopper
> for any public commercial application. A.I.'s are like people; some
> of them are more prone to potty mouth than others, you can't count on
> good behavior unless you train your animals. Thus, offensive labels
> should be tagged.
>
> Similar choices appear in different contexts. I live in New York and
> if you look at legal documents they always say "New York State" or
> "New York City" but if you drive onto the Thruway from Pennsylvania
> you will see "Welcome to New York" and then a distance sign that says
> New York is 490 miles away. Sometimes you want the latin name of an
> organism and sometimes you want the common name. You might want to
> speak of pharmaceuticals always using the generic name (Omeprazole)
> rather than a brand (Prilosec). Sometimes you want to use
> abbreviations (RDF) and other times you want to spell things out
> (Resource Description Framework). If you want to make something
> visually tight you need to control label length
>
> http://carpictures.cc/cars/photo/
>
> A superhuman system would certainly contain statistical models, but a
> lot of the knowledge needed to do the above could be encoded as
> properties of the labels.
>
> ᐧ
>
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Gerard Meijssen
> <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hoi,
> > In a different conversation it was put like this: "Wikipedia is what it
> is
> > and Wikidata is what it is". This was in the context of assumptions.
> > Thanks,
> > GerardM
> >
> >
> > On 6 June 2014 16:59, Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Am 06.06.2014 15:44, schrieb Gerard Meijssen:
> >> > Hoi,
> >> > That is exactly the point. Once you assume that they are the same you
> >> > ignore the
> >> > extend to which they are not. Many, many items have articles pointing
> to
> >> > items
> >> > resulting in labels that are not exactly the same subject.
> >>
> >> And these are mistakes that should be fixed. So?
> >>
> >>
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