And when you look at the discussion, you see that the message that you are referring to said:
" If you have an item that says someone whon a nobel prize, but not when or which, and also does *noit* have a label, that items is quite useless; it'S impossible to tell which person it is even referring to." The only thing I can conclude is that you are against the removal of items without a label because they probably do have a label. Which in my opinion is UTTER BOLLOCKS. To get back to On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hoi > When you look at the statistics, you will find that we aggressively pursue > the inclusion of labels. When there is no label in your language it is > tough. When you use Reasonator there is no problem; you will always see a > label in whatever language is available. > > My problem is that we know that the prize was won. The item is likely to > have a label. For the rest ... as they say in double Dutch.. "search it but > out". > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 31 May 2015 at 18:40, Andre Engels <andreeng...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> And what if Q99999 does not have a label? How am I going from the >> information "Q99999 won the Nobel Prize in Literature" to "Q99999 >> is/is not Patrick Modiano"? >> >> André >> >> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Gerard Meijssen >> <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hoi, >> > Not enough data. Q99999 may have a label that is "Patrick Modiano".. >> > your >> > first challenge is to find out that your Patrick Modiano is indeed that >> > particular one. Given that you know what award was won, you have a >> > start. >> > Thanks, >> > GerardM >> > >> > On 31 May 2015 at 17:40, Andre Engels <andreeng...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> And that helps me how? Most awards have been won by more than one >> >> person. If I know that Q99999 has won the Nobel Prize in literature, >> >> and I know a fact about Patrick Modiano, should I add that fact to >> >> Q99999 or should I create a new item? >> >> >> >> André >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Gerard Meijssen >> >> <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Hoi, >> >> > Typically such items were created because the article about the award >> >> > mentions them. So it is all a matter of perspective. When the award >> >> > is >> >> > leading, the information about an award winner is in the article on >> >> > the >> >> > award. Having all these awardees on the article is not so great, it >> >> > is >> >> > not >> >> > what we do. >> >> > >> >> > Impossible? Certainly not. Reat the damn article (on the award). >> >> > Thanks, >> >> > GerardM >> >> > >> >> > On 31 May 2015 at 17:06, Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Am 31.05.2015 um 15:21 schrieb Gerard Meijssen: >> >> >> > Hoi, >> >> >> > When someone or something received an award, it is needed if only >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > complete >> >> >> > the list of recipients of that award.. There is no benchmark for >> >> >> > enough >> >> >> > information. The notion that you a Nobel award winner is not >> >> >> > relevant >> >> >> > is >> >> >> > poppycock. With automated descriptions awards do show. >> >> >> >> >> >> If you have an item that says someone whon a nobel prize, but not >> >> >> when >> >> >> or >> >> >> which, >> >> >> and also does *noit* have a label, that items is quite useless; it'S >> >> >> impossible >> >> >> to tell which person it is even referring to. >> >> >> >> >> >> That is what markus is talking about. For people, if there is a >> >> >> label, >> >> >> we >> >> >> already have pretty good info. But if there is no label, we have a >> >> >> problem, and >> >> >> if there isn't any other identifying info,m the item is useless. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Daniel Kinzler >> >> >> Senior Software Developer >> >> >> >> >> >> Wikimedia Deutschland >> >> >> Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Wikidata mailing list >> >> >> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Wikidata mailing list >> >> > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> André Engels, andreeng...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wikidata mailing list >> >> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikidata mailing list >> > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> André Engels, andreeng...@gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > -- André Engels, andreeng...@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
