Hoi,
Did they have a date of death in Wikidata as well ?
Thanks,
GerardM
On 31 August 2016 at 11:53, Dimitris Kontokostas <jimk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Based on the other open related thread [1] there are references for the
> deathDate of 1950 people [2]
> I manually checked a random 5 pages and all had a reference "imported from
> Wikipedia" so maybe this is a good start
>
> (cc'ing wiki-cite after Dario's suggestion on the other thread)
>
> Best,
> Dimitris
>
> [1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2016-August/009447.html
> [2] curl http://downloads.dbpedia.org/temporary/citations/enwiki-
> 20160305-citedFacts.tql.bz2 | bzcat | grep "deathDate"
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Markus Krötzsch <
> mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
>
>> On 04.06.2015 12:17, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>>
>>> Another question: can DBpedia extract references from Wikipedia
>>> articles too? If this would be possible, it might be feasible to
>>> guess and suggest a reference (or a list of references). Especially
>>> with things like date of death, one would expect that references
>>> have a publication date very close to (but strictly after) the
>>> event, which could narrow down the choices very much.
>>>
>>>
>>> We don't extract them for now, although I think we could relatively
>>> easily. The problem in this case would be that we cannot associate
>>> references with facts. The DBpedia Information Extraction Framework is
>>> quite module and can be easily extended with new extractors but it is
>>> hard to make these extractors "talk to each other".
>>> So we could easily get something like the following
>>> dbp:A dbo:birthDate "..."
>>> dbp:A dbo:deahthDate "..."
>>> dbp:A dbo:reference dbp:r1 # and maybe " dbp:r1 ....something else"
>>> depending on the modeling
>>> dbp:A dbo:reference dbp:r2
>>>
>>> but not sure if this solves your problem
>>>
>>
>> Yes, I understand that you can hardly get the association between
>> extracted facts and references. My suggestion was to extract both
>> independently and then to query for references that have a publication date
>> close to a person's death so as to suggest them to users as a possible
>> reference for the death-date fact. This would still require a manual check,
>> since we cannot know if the guessed reference belongs to the date of death,
>> but if it has a high precision it would be a worthwhile way of spending
>> volunteer time to obtain confirmed references.
>>
>> At the same time, it might be one of the fastest ways to get sourced date
>> of death into Wikidata, since news articles will usually appear before the
>> major authority files are updated (so even if we get donations from them,
>> some lag would remain). With such an extraction framework, one could
>> establish a pipeline from Wikipedia to Wikidata.
>>
>> In the long run, references from authority files will become more
>> valuable than news articles, because they are more long-lived.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Markus
>>
>>
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