yes taking the 1st entry for example <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Abdülaziz_of_the_Ottoman_Empire> < http://dbpedia.org/ontology/deathDate> "1876-06-04"^^< http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#date> < http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN978-1-59339-837-8> . is about https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q151500
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hoi, > Did they have a date of death in Wikidata as well ? > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 31 August 2016 at 11:53, Dimitris Kontokostas <jimk...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Based on the other open related thread [1] there are references for the >> deathDate of 1950 people [2] >> I manually checked a random 5 pages and all had a reference "imported >> from Wikipedia" so maybe this is a good start >> >> (cc'ing wiki-cite after Dario's suggestion on the other thread) >> >> Best, >> Dimitris >> >> [1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2016-Augu >> st/009447.html >> [2] curl http://downloads.dbpedia.org/temporary/citations/enwiki-2016 >> 0305-citedFacts.tql.bz2 | bzcat | grep "deathDate" >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Markus Krötzsch < >> mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: >> >>> On 04.06.2015 12:17, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote: >>> ... >>> >>>> >>>> Another question: can DBpedia extract references from Wikipedia >>>> articles too? If this would be possible, it might be feasible to >>>> guess and suggest a reference (or a list of references). Especially >>>> with things like date of death, one would expect that references >>>> have a publication date very close to (but strictly after) the >>>> event, which could narrow down the choices very much. >>>> >>>> >>>> We don't extract them for now, although I think we could relatively >>>> easily. The problem in this case would be that we cannot associate >>>> references with facts. The DBpedia Information Extraction Framework is >>>> quite module and can be easily extended with new extractors but it is >>>> hard to make these extractors "talk to each other". >>>> So we could easily get something like the following >>>> dbp:A dbo:birthDate "..." >>>> dbp:A dbo:deahthDate "..." >>>> dbp:A dbo:reference dbp:r1 # and maybe " dbp:r1 ....something else" >>>> depending on the modeling >>>> dbp:A dbo:reference dbp:r2 >>>> >>>> but not sure if this solves your problem >>>> >>> >>> Yes, I understand that you can hardly get the association between >>> extracted facts and references. My suggestion was to extract both >>> independently and then to query for references that have a publication date >>> close to a person's death so as to suggest them to users as a possible >>> reference for the death-date fact. This would still require a manual check, >>> since we cannot know if the guessed reference belongs to the date of death, >>> but if it has a high precision it would be a worthwhile way of spending >>> volunteer time to obtain confirmed references. >>> >>> At the same time, it might be one of the fastest ways to get sourced >>> date of death into Wikidata, since news articles will usually appear before >>> the major authority files are updated (so even if we get donations from >>> them, some lag would remain). With such an extraction framework, one could >>> establish a pipeline from Wikipedia to Wikidata. >>> >>> In the long run, references from authority files will become more >>> valuable than news articles, because they are more long-lived. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> Markus >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata mailing list >>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Kontokostas Dimitris >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > -- Kontokostas Dimitris
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