when you say "wikidata is not well  suited for lists data", you refer
to wikibase or WDQS here?

the  data:Bea.gov/GDP by state.tab above is certainly a good
representation for efficient delivery (via json) and display of data.
but inefficient for further data sharing without URIs.

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is a better alternative to storing lists -
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tabular_Data -- it allows you to store a
> CSV-like table of data on Commons, with localized columns, and access it
> from all other wikis from the <graph> and Lua scripts.
>
> A good example of it -- "per state GDP" page  -- see graph in the upper
> right corner.
>
> Page: List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP
> Data: GDP_by_state.tab
>
> Wikidata is not very well  suited for lists data, but tabular data was
> designed for a relatively large (up to 2mb) lists.
>
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Marco Neumann <marco.neum...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> great I will be on site as well, so we will have a little more time to
>> discuss this in detail.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Antonin Delpeuch (lists)
>> <li...@antonin.delpeuch.eu> wrote:
>> > Hi Marco,
>> >
>> > I agree that many of these lists and tables could be harvested (with
>> > some care, of course).
>> >
>> > However, I don't think that the information they contain should go to
>> > the Wikidata item they are associated with. This Wikidata item mostly
>> > exists to store inter-language links, but is poorly connected to the
>> > rest of the knowledge graph. This tax revenue and GDP information should
>> > go to the country items themselves.
>> >
>> > I am working on the problem of extraction of statements from lists and
>> > tables and will write a tutorial when the tools are ready. WikidataCon
>> > attendees might have a glimpse of that in this session:
>> >
>> > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikidataCon_2017/Submissions/OpenRefine_demo
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Antonin
>> >
>> > On 17/10/2017 12:07, Marco Neumann wrote:
>> >> I have noticed a lack of actual data in wikidata representations of
>> >> wikipedia list.
>> >>
>> >> for example
>> >>
>> >> List of countries by tax revenue to GDP ratio
>> >>
>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_revenue_to_GDP_ratio
>> >>
>> >> to
>> >>
>> >> List of countries by tax revenue as percentage of GDP (Q2529105)
>> >> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2529105
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> is there currently a development in the wikidata community to
>> >> transform these lists into wikibase items and last but not least
>> >> produce RDF respresentations for WDQS?
>> >>
>> >> best,
>> >> Marco
>> >>
>> >
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