>
> The semantics of Wikidata qualifiers have not been defined and and won't
> be enforced. It's left up to users to invent their own meanings. (In this
> way, Wikidata is still a lot like the prose in Wikipedia.)
> We need more "curated" projects like DBpedia



Mmh, I would have rather thought that the system of qualifiers, even
imperfect, was a great enhacement compared to the DBpedia model - which is
a bit of a mess.

Let's take Winston Churchill item <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8016> :
Wikidata tells us, for example, that he served as British Prime Minister
from 1951 to 1955 replacing Clement Attlee and that he was replaced at this
position by Anthony Eden. In DBpedia
<http://dbpedia.org/page/Winston_Churchill>, which does not use
reification, we have just a list of offices, a list of successors, a list
of predecessors, a list of dates, and no way to figure out who replaced
whom to what and when.

The handcrafted ontology of DBpedia is certainly more consistent, but it's
also much poorer. Rather than impoverishing Wikidata's class system, would
it not be better to find a way to avoid horrors like "actor is a subclass
of person" <https://datalanguage.com/news/wikidata-q41483>. I would be
interested to know if there are researchers working on the subject.

Regarding the compared size of DBpedia and Wikidata, I thought that
Wikidata is by nature much larger. DBpedia cannot contain more entities
than there are in the english Wikipedia (about 5 million), with its very
strict criteria of notoriety, while Wikidata allows any more things. Am I
wrong ? (I consider of course that DBpedia and its other language versions
are different knowledge bases, as is the case in the LOD cloud)

2018-05-05 16:52 GMT+02:00 David Abián <davidab...@wikimedia.es>:

> I don't mean a technical lack of expressiveness, but the impossibility,
> and lack of intention, for Wikipedia to become a read-only interface of
> Wikidata someday.
>
>
> El 05/05/18 a las 16:33, Andy Mabbett escribió:
> > On 5 May 2018 at 14:39, David Abián <davidab...@wikimedia.es> wrote:
> >
> >> Both Wikidata and DBpedia surely can, and should, coexist because we'll
> >> never be able to host in Wikidata the entirety of the Wikipedias.
> >
> > Can you give an example of something that can be represented in
> > DBpedia, but not Wikidata?
> >
>
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