Hi,

I fully agree on the usefulness of this mapping.

Out of 5311 properties, only 232 have equivalents in other schemes
<https://query.wikidata.org/#%23list%20of%20properties%20in%20Wikidata%20with%20their%20type%20and%20their%20equivalent%20in%20other%20ontologies%0A%0ASELECT%20DISTINCT%20%3Fproperty%20%3FpropertyLabel%20%3FpropertyDescription%20%3FpropertyType%20%0A%28GROUP_CONCAT%28DISTINCT%20%3FequivalentProp%3Bseparator%3D%22%3B%20%22%29%20as%20%3FequivalentProps%29%0A%0AWHERE%0A%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fproperty%20rdf%3Atype%20wikibase%3AProperty%20.%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fproperty%20wikibase%3ApropertyType%20%3FpropertyType%20.%0A%20%20%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%3Fproperty%20wdt%3AP1628%20%20%3FequivalentProp%20.%7D%0A%20%20%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22%20%7D%09%0A%20%20%0A%7D%20GROUP%20BY%20%3Fproperty%20%3FpropertyLabel%20%3FpropertyDescription%20%3FpropertyType%20>
(although
the many external ids are special cases since they are equivalent to some
kind of owl:sameAs.)

If I can help in this job, I'm interested.

Cheers,

Ettore Rizza

On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 at 13:29, Maarten Dammers <maar...@mdammers.nl> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Last week I presented Wikidata at the Semantics conference in Vienna (
> https://2018.semantics.cc/ ). One question I asked people was: What is
> keeping you from using Wikidata? One of the common responses is that
> it's quite hard to combine Wikidata with the rest of the semantic web.
> We have our own private ontology that's a bit on an island. Most of our
> triples are in our own private format and not available in a more
> generic, more widely use ontology.
>
> Let's pick an example: Claude Lussan. No clue who he is, but my bot
> seems to have added some links and the item isn't too big. Our URI is
> http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q2977729 and this is equivalent of
> http://viaf.org/viaf/29578396 and
> http://data.bibliotheken.nl/id/thes/p173983111 . If you look at
> http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q2977729.rdf this equivalence is
> represented as:
> <wdtn:P214 rdf:resource="http://viaf.org/viaf/29578396"/>
> <wdtn:P1006 rdf:resource="http://data.bibliotheken.nl/id/thes/p173983111
> "/>
>
> Also outputting it in a more generic way would probably make using it
> easier than it is right now. Last discussion about this was at
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P1921 , but no response
> since June.
>
> That's one way of linking up, but another way is using equivalent
> property ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1628 ) and equivalent
> class ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1709 ). See for example
> sex or gender ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P21) how it's
> mapped to other ontologies. This won't produce easier RDF, but some
> smart downstream users have figured out some SPARQL queries. So linking
> up our properties and classes to other ontologies will make using our
> data easier. This is a first step. Maybe it will be used in the future
> to generate more RDF, maybe not and we'll just document the SPARQL
> approach properly.
>
> The equivalent property and equivalent class are used, but not that
> much. Did anyone already try a structured approach with reporting? I'm
> considering parsing popular ontology descriptions and producing reports
> of what is linked to what so it's easy to make missing links, but I
> don't want to do double work here.
>
> What ontologies are important because these are used a lot? Some of the
> ones I came across:
> * https://www.w3.org/2009/08/skos-reference/skos.html
> * http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/
> * http://schema.org/
> * https://creativecommons.org/ns
> * http://dbpedia.org/ontology/
> * http://vocab.org/open/
> Any suggestions?
>
> Maarten
>
>
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