Yes, that seems consistent with what exponents of CC licenses have always said, and so it gives more value to the jurisdictions in the licenses.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:52 PM, James Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had a look at > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/au/legalcode > > I think the most (and perhaps only) relevant part is "THE WORK IS PROTECTED > BY COPYRIGHT AND/OR OTHER APPLICABLE LAW." In other words, CC/GFDL etc. are > simply using copyright law, so any such licenses presumably expire in the > same way that copyright expires according to the local jurisdiction. > > > Leigh Blackall wrote: > > Good question James! I dunno if anyone has ever asked that. Does it say ini > the more detailed copyright statement that is linked in a basic web version > of a CC statement? > > 2008/6/17 Randy Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Hi Leigh and all: >> >> Do we have an FAQ on these copyright questions? If not, it would be useful >> to compile these questions and update as required. >> >> - Randy >> >> 2008/6/16 James Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> just curious - do cc etc. type licenses expire after X years and your >>> stuff goes into public domain, just as per copyright? what happens to an >>> author's cc/gfdl wiki contributions after X years? do they go public domain >>> too? >>> >>> Leigh Blackall wrote: >>> >>> We = Otago Polytechnic as stated in or IP >>> Policy<http://wikieducator.org/Otago_Polytechnic>. >>> And thanks for pointing out the Lulu license in the meta data for one of the >>> books I've published Chris, that Lulu is hard to set up at times. I hope the >>> CC icon on the book, and the CC BY statement inside the book's cover will >>> make up for the confusion on the site at the moment. >>> >>> 2008/6/16 Chris Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>>> We reckon CC BY is better than best :) and facilitates more connection >>>>> - which is what the course is about right? >>>>> >>>> >>>> We meaning who? and for what? >>>> >>>> http://www.lulu.com/leighblackall. What licenses are you using there >>>> and why? >>>> >>>> Warm Regards >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> 2008/6/16 Leigh Blackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>> >>>>> We reckon CC BY is better than best :) and facilitates more >>>>> connection - which is what the course is about right? >>>>> >>>>> 2008/6/16 Wong Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you Peter and George , >>>>>> >>>>>> It is indeed the great news , I like CC-BY-SA best too , I could not >>>>>> get access the wiki site though in my school , I guess they block it like >>>>>> they block wikieducator too , which means millons of students or teachers >>>>>> like me cannot use this course , or even see how it is going , I will >>>>>> see if >>>>>> I can find someone who help me translate this great Course into Chinese >>>>>> , if >>>>>> anyone in this group who speaks Chinese please email me , we can work >>>>>> together , I have a wiki site my own , maybe we can put there . >>>>>> >>>>>> and another question would be : does this course need formal >>>>>> registration like WE ? and any cost ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Leo >>>>>> >>>>>> 2008/6/15 Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Great news about the change to the CC license. Thank-you. It would be >>>>>>> kewl to see Leo translate your work to Chinese... >>>>>>> I'm a believer of using a CC-BY-SA. I'd certainly like to be a fly on >>>>>>> the wall to overhear the discussion between you and Stephen about the >>>>>>> use of the NC... if it comes up. (maybe if you are talking over the >>>>>>> phone or email, you could skype or blog the conversation and publish >>>>>>> it. If you include UofM policy it could be an interesting >>>>>>> conversation >>>>>>> for others to listen or read about...) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for all your great works, Peter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 14, 10:59 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > Hi Peter (and others), >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Stephen and I are both proponents of sharing educational resources >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> > ensuring dissemination at the widest level is possible. The license >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> > the wiki is temporary. We will be adopting a CC license (just had >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> > put an interim disclaimer on the page until we received permission >>>>>>> > from U of Manitoba...which we have done). >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I'm just waiting for final confirmation from Stephen as to the >>>>>>> exact >>>>>>> > CC license we'll select. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > George >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Jun 13, 11:40 pm, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > Leo, >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > George and Stephen are only loosely associated with WE. Stephen I >>>>>>> know >>>>>>> > > is a member of this google group and has endorsed WE as the best >>>>>>> > > educational wiki; >>>>>>> http://halfanhour.blogspot.com/2007/12/not-edublog-award-winners.html >>>>>>> > > I don't know if George is even a member of this google group... >>>>>>> So >>>>>>> > > they are offering the course through the Learning Technologies >>>>>>> Centre >>>>>>> > > (LTC) of the University of Manitoba here in Canada. They are >>>>>>> offering >>>>>>> > > it themselves. Not through WE. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > Mostly the course will be about the connectivism. >>>>>>> http://www.elearnspace.org/Articles/connectivism.htmIMHOa very very >>>>>>> > > very appropriate "learning" theory for the digital age.... >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > Their course wiki is licensed under a CC-BY-NC-ND which means all >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> > > can do is copy / share it. I believe translating it would be >>>>>>> making a >>>>>>> > > derivative so you would be violating the ND of the license. If >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> > > have time why don't you attend this online course and decide if >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> > > think it would be worth translating to Chinese (which I believe >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> > > would be). If you think it is worth translating you could ask >>>>>>> George >>>>>>> > > and Stephen to waive the ND license specifically for you so you >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> > > translate it... >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > Thanks for asking... >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > Peter >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > On Jun 13, 11:24 am, "Wong Leo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > my question is why don't they offer the course in wikieducator >>>>>>> platform ? >>>>>>> > > > and can I translate the course into Chinese so that more people >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> > > > partipate ? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > could be silly questions >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > Leo >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > 2008/6/14 Wong Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > Thank you Peter , >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > I have translated your post into Chinese ,and also going to >>>>>>> tell this to my >>>>>>> > > > > students and coworker in Soochow University in China , and >>>>>>> also repost it in >>>>>>> > > > > my bloghttp://leolaoshi.yo2.cn/2008/06/14/onlinecourse/ >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > but could you tell me more abt this course ,what it is abt ? >>>>>>> what is the >>>>>>> > > > > difference with WE workshop ? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > regards >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > Leo >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > 2008/6/13 Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > >> Hello WE's >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > >> This should be time well spent. It looks as though Stephen >>>>>>> Downes and >>>>>>> > > > >> George Siemens will be collaborating in an online course >>>>>>> this fall. If >>>>>>> > > > >> you have the time I strongly suggest that any or all >>>>>>> WikiEducators >>>>>>> > > > >> participate... >>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>> http://connectivism.ca/blog/2008/06/connectivism_and_connective_kn.html >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > >> Cheers, Peter >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > -- >>>>>>> > > > > blog:http://leolaoshi.yo2.cn >>>>>>> > > > > HELP项目 >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/helpelephantsliveproject >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > -- >>>>>>> > > > blog:http://leolaoshi.yo2.cn >>>>>>> > > > HELP项目https://groups.google.com/group/helpelephantsliveproject >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> blog:http://leolaoshi.yo2.cn >>>>>> HELP项目https://groups.google.com/group/helpelephantsliveproject >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> Leigh Blackall >>>>> +64(0)21736539 >>>>> skype - leigh_blackall >>>>> SL - Leroy Goalpost >>>>> http://learnonline.wordpress.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Leigh Blackall >>> +64(0)21736539 >>> skype - leigh_blackall >>> SL - Leroy Goalpost >>> http://learnonline.wordpress.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1503 - Release Date: 14/06/2008 >>> 6:02 PM >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Web: http://wilderdom.com >>> Wiki/blog: http://ucspace.canberra.edu.au/x/fIAeAg >>> Bookmarks: http://del.icio.us/jtneill >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ________________ >> Randy Fisher - Facilitating Change, Connections and Collaboration to >> Improve Performance. >> * Engaging People in Teams, Communities and Organizations....and >> WikiEducator! >> >> + 1 604.684.2275 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> www.wikieducator.org >> www.wikieducator.org/User:Randyfisher >> >> >> Skype: wikirandy >> >> > > > -- > -- > Leigh Blackall > +64(0)21736539 > skype - leigh_blackall > SL - Leroy Goalpost > http://learnonline.wordpress.com > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 16/06/2008 > 7:20 AM > > > > > -- > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: http://wilderdom.com > Wiki/blog: http://ucspace.canberra.edu.au/x/fIAeAg > Bookmarks: http://del.icio.us/jtneill > > > > -- -- Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalpost http://learnonline.wordpress.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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