Its really nothing special Leo.. you're probably expecting better :) When's an OER not an OER?
September 18, 2008 in Uncategorized<http://learnonline.wordpress.com/category/uncategorized/> <http://flickr.com/photos/leighblackall/501740058/in/set-72157600223371021/>When MIT publish one it seems. MIT have published a text called Opening Up Education<http://mitpress.mit.edu/opening_up_education/>, but under a copyright license that is one step short of All Rights Reserved. MIT is just not getting the message are they? They are not really about open education at all! On the other hand, Utah State University in collaboration with the Commonwealth of Learning and individual designers have published the OER Handbook <http://www.wikieducator.org/OER_Handbook/educator_version_one>. Available under a free and practically nonrestrictive license, in both a wiki and a printed and bound text on Lulu. I like to think that Utah followed Otago Polytechnic's lead when we published Ruth Lawson's Anatomy and Physiology of Animals text on Wikibooks<http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Anatomy_and_Physiology_of_Animals>, with lesson plans and activities on Wikieducator<http://www.wikieducator.org/The_Anatomy_and_Physiology_of_Animals>, and a printed version on Lulu.com <http://www.lulu.com/content/1920743> We are working on a number of other texts as we speak (not to mention videos and stuff all over the place!), all of it under CC By. MIT should stop their work in "open courseware" and "open education" or risk influencing a second wave of OER developers to basically construct educational resources that may as well be All Rights Reserved and leave us in a position not much better than where we started. Risks like the trend that MIT are setting necessitate a project like the Free Cultural Works Definition <http://freedomdefined.org/Definition> were it sets out to clearly delineate what is free and what is restrictive. It prevents by way of stating a principle, oganisations cashing in on the hard work of OER campaigners. In my books <http://flickr.com/photos/leighblackall/sets/72157600223371021/>, CC By is the only free license. PS. It was way back in November 2004 we started to get suspicious of MIT<http://learnonline.wordpress.com/2004/11/22/suspicions-on-mit-ocw/> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Wong Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes ,http://yeeyan.com is a website I use to translate the interesting > articles by English edu blogger into Chinese , I can send your article using > google document or in their wiki http://pro.yeeyan.com ( where I use to > translate the Connectivism course by G/S) into Chinese ) > > It is nothing but yes please send it to me coz I canot open your blog in > anyway , and I will try my best to translate it into Chinese ( hope it is > not too long ) and send the URL back to WE here > > best > > Leo > > 2008/9/18 Leigh Blackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Thanks Leo, but I am most certainly not amazing. Just an outspoken guy who >> often speaks before thinking and so far been lucky. >> >> The original text? You mean the text from my blog? >> >> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Wong Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Dear Leigh , >>> >>> I have to read your post by using google translation now ,even I could >>> not read it by using proxy , butSO I am reading it in Chinese now ! >>> >>> remember I was talking about the dragon story in Chinese , it really >>> bring me back to home >>> >>> If you can ,would you please send me the orignial English version so I >>> can read maybe translation it into Chinese and post it on the web somewhere >>> so more people can read >>> >>> you are amazing >>> >>> Leo >>> >>> 2008/9/18 Wayne Mackintosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> Good question, >>>> >>>> I'd suggest posting that on the freedomdefined site and lets see how >>>> they respond. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Wayne >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com on behalf of Leigh Blackall >>>> Sent: Wed 9/17/2008 10:36 PM >>>> To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: another text on OER, but not an OER!! >>>> >>>> Yes, you are right.. I am, as always impatient :) >>>> >>>> I wonder though - given that the discussion page shows a fair number of >>>> unresolved or threads without closure, how we will determine consensus >>>> and >>>> take action on that paragraph...? >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Wayne Mackintosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >wrote: >>>> >>>> > Hi Leigh, >>>> > >>>> > My own experience with the open movement is that nothing is cut and >>>> dry. >>>> > The success and survival of the top open projects depend on community >>>> > support, listening and feeling the pulse of the community. >>>> > >>>> > Openness and the willingness to adapt, refine and get better without >>>> > compromising core vales is what feeds and sustains successful open >>>> projects. >>>> > With every open project there is always the opportunity to fork. The >>>> risk >>>> > with forking is the challenge of achieving critical mass for >>>> sustainability. >>>> > It's a self-organising system. >>>> > >>>> > WikiEducator is an important and significant community in the global >>>> OER >>>> > space -- the fact that Erik has opened the discussion is a testament >>>> to our >>>> > contribution to the freedom culture but also a validation of the >>>> openness of >>>> > the free cultural works definition. >>>> > >>>> > I don't see this as a "cut and dry" scenario rather an opportunity to >>>> make >>>> > a positive contribution to what we collectively are trying to achieve. >>>> The >>>> > real test will be whether the WikiEducator community and others take >>>> up the >>>> > opportunity in changing the world for the better :-). >>>> > >>>> > Cheers >>>> > Wayne >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com on behalf of Leigh Blackall >>>> > Sent: Wed 9/17/2008 9:35 PM >>>> > To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com >>>> > Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: another text on OER, but not an OER!! >>>> > >>>> > Have also added my bit to the discussion page... seems pretty cut and >>>> dry >>>> > though. Not sure what needs to be discussed, but let's see and I guess >>>> its >>>> > only polite. >>>> > >>>> > Randy said: How ironic! Someone should write an opinion piece in a >>>> highly >>>> > > regarded publication to draw attention to the irony, and some might >>>> say, >>>> > > hypocrisy. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Well, mine may not be highly regarded but it is read by 3000 people a >>>> > month. >>>> > (scarey I know!) When is an OER not an >>>> > OER?< >>>> http://learnonline.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/whens-an-oer-not-an-oer/> >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Wayne Mackintosh < >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> > >wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > Thanks Erik, >>>> > > >>>> > > I've posted some feedback on the preamble here: >>>> > > >>>> > > http://freedomdefined.org/Talk:Definition#Preamble_for_1.1 >>>> > > >>>> > > Appreciate your speedy response in opening up the discussion again. >>>> A >>>> > > testament to the open approach. Lets hope that the WikiEducator >>>> community >>>> > > will be active in helping with contributions to refine the >>>> definition. >>>> > > >>>> > > Here's your opportunity :-) >>>> > > >>>> > > Cheers >>>> > > Wayne >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > -----Original Message----- >>>> > > From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com on behalf of Erik Moeller >>>> > > Sent: Wed 9/17/2008 8:03 PM >>>> > > To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com >>>> > > Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: another text on OER, but not an OER!! >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > I've rebooted the discussion and invited some of the contributors to >>>> > > the definition to participate: >>>> > > >>>> > > http://freedomdefined.org/Talk:Definition#Preamble_for_1.1 >>>> > > -- >>>> > > Erik Möller >>>> > > Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation >>>> > > >>>> > > Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > -- >>>> > Leigh Blackall >>>> > +64(0)21736539 >>>> > skype - leigh_blackall >>>> > SL - Leroy Goalpost >>>> > http://learnonline.wordpress.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> Leigh Blackall >>>> +64(0)21736539 >>>> skype - leigh_blackall >>>> SL - Leroy Goalpost >>>> http://learnonline.wordpress.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> HELP 项目论坛 >>> https://groups.google.com/group/helpelephantsliveproject >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> Leigh Blackall >> +64(0)21736539 >> skype - leigh_blackall >> SL - Leroy Goalpost >> http://learnonline.wordpress.com >> >> >> > > > -- > HELP 项目论坛 > https://groups.google.com/group/helpelephantsliveproject > > > > -- -- Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalpost http://learnonline.wordpress.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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