not sure what I was doing... no one summarises discussion better than Anil... I think I was trying to do that on the discussion page you set up Anil, but I ended up just cutting and pasting relevant stuff from this forum... hopefully we can identify what useful stuff there is out of that to transfer over to the Plan page...
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Anil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi dear all, > > I have created two pages on WE viz > http://wikieducator.org/WE3/Discuss and http://wikieducator.org/WE3/Plan > > First one is to discuss/consolidate group discussions on WE 3, the > second one is to convert the discussions into a plan/project. So that > the information on the pages would become helpful to WE Council and > other stakeholders who are engaged in formal planning. > > If the arrangement is generally accepted, I will start working on it, > and also request all others to take part. > > Warm regards > Anil > > On Oct 3, 7:02 pm, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree, twitter is a great tool to give valuable insight into the > > members of a team. I have found that my online (and offline) > > communication seems to have a different depth when it includes my > > following an associate, friend... on twitter. > > I never though about the importance in having Wayne develop an online > > presence outside of COL. If Stephen Downes can have the time for blogs > > and tweets, why not Wayne... > > > > Let's hope you find some additional time for this Wayne. It could > > provide some important exposure / insight into WE as it transitions... > > > > Peter > > > > On Oct 2, 10:52 pm, "NELLIE DEUTSCH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Peter, > > > Personally, I think twitter is an excellent idea for WE as a community > and > > > for individuals. > > > I would give twitter a try. > > > > > Warm wishes, > > > Nellie > > > > > Nellie Deutsch > > > Doctoral Student > > > Educational Leadership > > > Curriculum and Instructionhttp://www.nelliemuller.comhttp:// > www.integrating-technology.com/pdht... > > > > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Next you'll be suggesting twitter so we can keep up with his > > > > movements... geographic that is <SMILE> > > > > > > On Oct 2, 2:23 pm, "Leigh Blackall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Wayne, you need a blog.. > > > > > > > All this information, dispersed and broken up inside a google group > and > > > > > different Wikipages. I think you need a blog so we can keep up with > > > > > everything you are doing and thinking about > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Wayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 09:49 -0700, Steve Foerster wrote: > > > > > > > > Wayne wrote: > > > > > > > > << WikiEducator 3.0 refers to the phases of our strategic plan: > >> > > > > > > > > Oooooh, okay, fair enough. > > > > > > > > I've started a stub for Wkieducator 3.0 --- The idea being to > provide > > > > a > > > > > > synopsis of our strategy and concise history of the project as > the > > > > basis to > > > > > > ask the community to help us identify the strategic and > operational > > > > > > priorities of Phase 3 in our development. > > > > > > > > << TImeline: Startup of the new International Center for Open > > > > > > Education is scheduled for 1 May 2009. COL has agreed to fund > the > > > > > > technical infrastructure of WIkiEducator for the first 3 years, > that > > > > > > is servers and technical support staff. COL's future support for > > > > > > WikiEducator is conditional and requires that WikiEducator is > > > > > > established within a new legal framework that COL considers > > > > > > appropriate for such support. Our discussions have been around > > > > > > setting up an independent and appropriate non-profit entity. >> > > > > > > > > I agree that this is critically important. In order to set up a > non- > > > > > > profit organisation, it must have by-laws, yes? And these would > > > > > > presumably refer to a governance structure, e.g., Board of > Directors > > > > > > or Trustees or what have you? I ask because if that's the case > then > > > > > > this would effectively replace our Draft Policy on Governance, > and if > > > > > > that's so we must be the ones to write it. > > > > > > > > Steve, replacing our Draft Policy on Governance -- not > necessarily. > > > > > > > > My personal view is that we should do everything we can to > respect and > > > > > > support the autonomy of the WE community taking into account our > > > > history and > > > > > > what's been achieved to date and the legal requirements. It is > > > > conceivable > > > > > > to have an independent non profit that is responsible for > maintaining > > > > the > > > > > > technical and operational infrastructure of the WikiEducator > community > > > > in > > > > > > accordance with the policies approved by the WikiEducator > Community > > > > Council > > > > > > without interfering with the governance of the community. I'm > not a > > > > lawyer > > > > > > and we'll need to get legal advice on this question. So let's > wait > > > > till we > > > > > > have feedback from the experts. > > > > > > > > << Steve the Open Education Centre comes under an employer - > employee > > > > > > relationship. This is subject to the normal confidences afforded > to > > > > > > employment agreements. >> > > > > > > > > I hope that doesn't mean that you foresee your relationship with > Otago > > > > > > would require confidences that would preclude you from sharing > > > > > > relevant information with the WE community. > > > > > > > > Nope -- I don't see it that way at all. We all have multiple > roles > > > > and > > > > > > identities. My participation in WE is as an equal member of the > WE > > > > family. > > > > > > For example, you work at a University -- but participate in WE as > a > > > > member > > > > > > of the community. What I anticipate is a job description which > gives me > > > > the > > > > > > time to work for the WikiEducator project as an organisational > > > > allocation of > > > > > > staff time. Increasingly, I hope to see more institutions > officially > > > > > > donating FTE (Full time equivalent) staff time to the project. > I've > > > > been > > > > > > thinking about launching an FTE for WikiEducator initiative where > > > > > > institutions commit real staff time to the project. > > > > > > > > << The moment I have definitive detail on the relationship > between the > > > > > > operations of the International Centre for Open Education and the > > > > > > WikiEducator project -- I will be the first to let our community > know. > > > > > > > > Fair enough. > > > > > > > > << Suffice it to say, the establishment of an independent legal > entity > > > > > > for administering the funding for the WE project is a critical > path > > > > > > decision for moving forward. Currently -- WE has no legal > status. WE > > > > > > is a community of association whereby individual members are > > > > > > personally responsible (and liable) for their activities in the > > > > > > community. >> > > > > > > > > Very good, on this I think everyone agrees. Can we assume the > non- > > > > > > profit group would be chartered in NZ? (Fine with me if it is, > so > > > > > > long as NZ recognises public domain dedications.) > > > > > > > > Yes -- the non-profit would be chartered in NZ. To the best of > my > > > > knowledge, NZ recognises public domain dedications. > > > > > > > > The final form of the non-profit is not my decision, nor should > it be. > > > > This > > > > > > has to do with taxation status of different kinds of entities, > for > > > > example > > > > > > an Educational Charitable Trust versus a non-profit company with > > > > charitable > > > > > > purposes. In the case of NZ Educational Trust, to retain "tax > free" > > > > status > > > > > > has implications regarding disbursements -- this has nothing to > do with > > > > the > > > > > > form of the entity but local taxation law. As an international > project > > > > we > > > > > > must ensure that WE can continue its work at an international > level. > > > > This > > > > > > international stuff gets pretty complicated -- our server sits in > > > > Germany > > > > > > and we will more than likely have our Phase 2 hosting located in > > > > Canada. > > > > > > Each country has its laws around these things as well. I'm not a > lawyer > > > > and > > > > > > we will rely on the advice of legal professionals working in the > field. > > > > > > There is also the question of legal liability of the organisation > that > > > > funds > > > > > > operations etc. So lots of detail that needs to be worked out. > > > > > > > > << I have always acted in the best interests of the WIkiEducator > > > > > > project. I hold the highest number of edits in the community and > the > > > > > > accolade of being the first member of WikiEducator :-). Since > the > > > > > > inception of the project I have always put community first and > will > > > > > > continue to do so. >> > > > > > > > > I know. I really hope you don't think that I'm asking you these > > > > > > questions because of any doubt of that, as for the record I have > none > > > > > > at all. And hopefully everyone understands that you can't know > > > > > > everything yet. I'm only bugging you this way because I want to > > > > > > ensure that the community is as involved as possible in what > happens > > > > > > to us, and you can't reasonably facilitate that if we don't do > our > > > > > > part by asking what we need to know. > > > > > > > > I respect and admire your approach and ongoing commitment to our > > > > project > > > > > > since the early days :-) --- keep bugging! > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Wayne > > > > > > > > -=Steve=- > > > > > > > -- > > > > > -- > > > > > Leigh Blackall+64(0)21736539 > > > > > skype - leigh_blackall > > > > > SL - Leroy Goalposthttp://learnonline.wordpress.comhttp:// > > > >www.wikieducator.org/User:Leighblackall-Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > -- -- Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalpost http://learnonline.wordpress.com http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Leighblackall --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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