X! you missed out adminbots(e.g. Miza's).

- Chris

On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 12:03 PM, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2008/12/26 John Reaves <johnreave...@gmail.com>:
>
> > So it comes down to whether or not we care more about a positive PR image
> or
> > being able to maintain an encyclopedia without disruption and harassment
> > from one of the biggest idiots we've ever had?  I know what my choice
> would
> > be...
>
>
> I'm describing how this has been done in the past and why. PR isn't
> the reason, it's a consideration.
>
> I predict that such an ISP-wide block as we're describing here would
> go block, unblock, block, unblock x10, stop at unblock, arbitration,
> trout slaps and desysops all round for idiot blocking and wheel
> warring. Though it might shake loose the lower decile of admins.
> (That's an unintended side benefit, not a reason to do it either.)
>
> The reason the wheel of fat would stop at "unblock" is that the secret
> of blocks on Wikipedia is: they're just minor speed humps; you can't
> keep someone from editing if they *really* want to without shutting
> down the wiki. That's what "soft security" means and that's why we use
> it. Would your average reader or even editor know who the hell Grawp
> is in this context? No, they wouldn't. (They wouldn't because quite a
> few people work hard to make it that way, but nevertheless.)
>
> There's no point disrupting editing for large chunks of Verizon
> because this would just cause Grawp to go elsewhere. We're talking
> about someone who's clearly pathologically dedicated to this task.
>
> There is no cure for vandalism on Wikipedia while humans are humans.
>
>
> - d.
>
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