I get stuck on the term "módulos-entradas", which seems to be literally translated as "input modules", but I can't fit into the context. Here's the context, by the way: http://softlibre.barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=00/12/21/0849254
Anyway, I was just rereading some of the discussion of Larry Sanger and Wikipedia, and noticed that while Wales claims that Jeremy Rosenfeld was the first to propose using wikis to work on Nupedia, he admits that it was Sanger who convinced him to actually do it. Further, Sanger agrees that "probably...hundreds of people had the idea about a wiki encyclopedia before Wikipedia got started, and even told each other about it." So despite what I see as Wales intentional attempt to distort the issue, by mentioning certain seemingly contradictory facts and then failing to elaborate on them, I think I've got a fairly well agreed upon version of the events as they happened. I feel I ought to continue that quote from Larry, rather than risk taking it out of context. Sanger continued: "But it was the idea I had, while tasked with solving Nupedia's problem, that actually and directly led to the development of Wikipedia. That is a matter of historical fact, in living memory of several people--including Jimmy, whether he admits it or not. " And Wales responded with "Of course I 'admit' it. :-)" I'd the say the Jeremy Rosenfeld bit, if true, actually enhances Sanger's contribution to the creation of Wikipedia, in that it shows that merely mentioning wikis to Wales wasn't enough to bring the idea to fruition. It's good to reread those old messages, because I had somehow gotten the impression that the fact that it was Sanger's idea, and not Rosenfeld's, which actually and directly led to the development of Wikipedia, was a matter of dispute. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Carcharoth <carcharot...@googlemail.com>wrote: > I used Google Translate. I would post the entire translation here, but > not sure if that is OK or not, so I'm only posting the translation of > the first sentence. > > "Have you thought about Wiki design a specific work of polishing > modules-tickets?" > > Looks like a poor translation anyway. > > Carcharoth > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Anthony <wikim...@inbox.org> wrote: > > Speaking of Hector, can someone translate this for me: "¿Habéis pensado > en > > diseñar un Wiki específico para el trabajo de pulir los > módulos-entradas?. > > Muchos proyectos de Software están considerando aprovechar la dinámica > > "Document-mode" de los Wikis como una alternativa a las "message boards" > que > > permite una documentación persistente, no repetitiva e hipertextualmente > > articulada de los temas que se van tratando a petición de los usuarios." > It > > was written by Álvaro Tejero Cantero on December 24, 2000, just a week > > before the conversation at the taco stand. I can't figure out if it's > > talking about software, or if it's talking about...well...Wikipedia. > > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Ian Woollard <ian.wooll...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > >> Probably March 2001 would be the earliest slashdotting: > >> > >> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/03/02/1422244 > >> > >> And right at the end it says: > >> > >> Hector, who started the 'gnupedia' project recently wrote this on his > >> mailing list: > >> > >> "Now, the FSF's plans are give all the support to the Nupedia project. > >> So Nupedia will become the official GNU encyclopedia." > >> > >> -0) "Nupedia seems to be too centralized and slow moving for me. I > >> understand the need for quality control, but wouldn't it make more > >> sense to have a more bazaar-type free encyclopedia project?" > >> > >> Maybe so! People who want to get started _today_ on contributing free > >> texts to the world can do so at Wikipedia. All the content is released > >> under the GNU FDL, and it already has over 1000 articles. Short, and > >> maybe not the high quality of Nupedia, but with time? Who knows..." > >> > >> On 13/04/2009, Fred Bauder <fredb...@fairpoint.net> wrote: > >> > What really made Wikipedia was free publicity from Slashdot and The > New > >> > York Times during 2001. I don't know if I could find the initial > >> > Slashdoting, but here are the links to the two New York Times > articles: > >> > > >> > > >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/20/technology/fact-driven-collegial-this-site-wants-you.html > >> > > >> > > >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/09/magazine/the-year-in-ideas-a-to-z-populist-editing.html > >> > > >> > So I would say at least some of the credit goes to folks who > recognized a > >> > good idea and alerted the rest of the intellectual and internet > community > >> > to it. > >> > > >> > Fred Bauder > >> > >> -- > >> -Ian Woollard > >> > >> We live in an imperfectly imperfect world. Life in a perfectly > >> imperfect world would be *much* better. 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