Carcharoth <carcharot...@googlemail.com> wrote: > The danger there... ...is in starting out statements with phrases like "the danger there." > ...has always been... There is "a danger" in saying a thing "has always been." For example, there is the danger that it is not true.
> ...that examination of civility gets elevated over examination of > POV pushing. The POV pushing should always come first and > be examined first. If, Carcharoth, you are saying here that we need some kind of conceptual separation between issues and behavioral disputes -- between behaviourist and editorialist approaches -- I strongly agree with your agreement to my idea. > If you don't do that [treat POV pushing above incivility], the > danger is that people use claims of civil POV-pushing to > bludgeon opponents in content disputes... Using myself as an example, would people here appreciate it more if I was less "civil" when I "bludgeon" someone? In my experience, people will just jump on the Civility violation anyway - the only difference being their emphasis on mine and not theirs. -Stevertigo _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l