On 01/02/2011, Fred Bauder <fredb...@fairpoint.net> wrote: > >> If you don't consider it as a trade-off then bad things happen, you can >> lose >> the most productive members. > > Good propaganda, and it worked, but our most productive members are not > habitually nasty, only a few are.
This is a good example. I resent you for referring to my general discussion as 'propaganda'. This is rather uncivil. So please can Bauder be suspended from this list as he violates civility???? Many thx. ;-) /tongue in cheek example The point is that it's a continuum, what some people consider incivility may not be considered by others, and they vary on how much is needed for action. Wikipedia doesn't seem to have any statute of limitations, so I've seen numerous cases where people come along with a dirty laundry list from several years; implicitly this may overwhelm thousands and thousands of positive edits, and the incivility may be directed at people that are objectively up to no good. That's the trade-off. As George says, everyone is incivil sometimes. But my fundamental point is that perhaps it's about trade-offs between things; so identifying the trade-offs identifies the areas that require leadership. Things that aren't traded, don't require leadership, since consensus will very typically do the right thing for things that aren't traded off. > Fred -- -Ian Woollard _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
