Hmm. So basically the issue is security. Maybe Commons could have a "mobile 
upload key" that you could obtain by typing in your credentials? That key could 
then be parsed by the mail server.
Just a thought over coffee...
Jane

On 9 mei 2012, at 00:38, Nuno Tavares <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ermm, excuse me, "and hide (from us)" should be read "othewise it would hide 
> (from us)"
> 
> -NT
> 
> 
> Em 08-05-2012 22:27, Nuno Tavares escreveu:
>> What I think is worth noting is that the e-mail is simple to integrate
>> with, and would allow the whole ecosystem to use it as a "bridge": any
>> site, any mobile app, any whatever, could upload photos easily by just
>> sending a simple e-mail. This applies for webservices as well, but while
>> in the former you'd just send an e-mail (encrypted or not), with (any
>> kind of) webservices you'd have to develop the "consumer" - for every
>> application.
>> 
>> The worst part of this is that I can't imagine any of this without the
>> user sharing his credentials - I'd rather let the user login to WLM site
>> and fill in appropriate info (Commons user and password, email, etc) but
>> then again we would be leaving the user away from Commons - and this is
>> a separate and old discussion - and hide (from us) important statistics,
>> IMO, such as if it is a new user, upload counters, etc.
>> 
>> -NT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Em 08-05-2012 20:29, Jane Darnell escreveu:
>>> Hi Maarten,
>>> I thought about the security issue, but especially for new users, they
>>> probably don't care about security and are more concerned about losing
>>> their password, and keeping it in the email may help them upload a
>>> second time. Another alternative could be to somehow let them mail a
>>> bunch of photos and keep them in a queue so that when they logon, the
>>> upload requests get executed.
>>> 
>>> A bot account might work for that, if it sends a confirmation link for
>>> the user to click on for the logon page.
>>> Jane
>>> 
>>> On 8 mei 2012, at 20:06, Maarten Dammers <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Jane,
>>>> 
>>>> Op 8-5-2012 16:14, Jane Darnell schreef:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I was wondering if we could get around the problem of all the native
>>>>> mobile apps by allowing mobile users to upload photos by email. I am
>>>>> thinking of an email with a photo attached or pasted in the body of
>>>>> the message, accompanied by text in the subject line or body of the
>>>>> form:
>>>>> username:jane023
>>>>> password:****
>>>>> {{en|Duinlustweg 16 Overveen, Bloemendaal, the Netherlands. Next to
>>>>> park "Middenduin".}}
>>>>> {{Rijksmonument|514778}}
>>>>> [[Category:Bloemendaal]]
>>>> That's a security nightmare.
>>>>> You need the commons user login details, and the basic description
>>>>> and unique identifier. The default date is the date of the email or
>>>>> the photo date, but it could be optional to include category data if
>>>>> the user is enough of a commons user to determine this. So the last
>>>>> line in the above example could be optional.
>>>> I would opt for using a shared bot account. You would need some sort
>>>> of system to get your own personal emailadress
>>>> <somestrangecode>@submit.wikilovesmonuments.org . This would have a
>>>> bot upload the image for you and leave a note on your talk page so you
>>>> can find it back later on.
>>>>> Someone would need to set up a mail server that can auto-reply with a
>>>>> failure message or confirmation upload link.
>>>>> Is this possible? It could save people having to hassle with various
>>>>> mobile application SDK's. It could also be handy for people to reuse
>>>>> their messages as a template, if they take 10 or more photos of the
>>>>> same object with different angles. The mail parser would need to
>>>>> create a file title based off the description given.
>>>> Making a prototype shouldn't be too hard. Implementing all the
>>>> features might be a bit more difficult.
>>>> 
>>>> Maarten
>>>>> Jane
>>>>> 
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