Maybe it's too British :( Let's try for something else, then. But please can we do it quickly so that we can update the message soon (say by Saturday)?
Please comment at https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/CentralNotice and we will make a community decision there. Michael On 19 Sep 2013, at 17:41, Lodewijk wrote: > By the way, quite some suggestions have been made on > https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/CentralNotice > - I would hope that more people take a look at it there, and discuss > specific suggestions there too. > > Lodewijk > > > 2013/9/19 Katie Chan <katie.c...@wikimedia.org.uk> > "Where have you been" as in "what lovely places have you visited?", > not "why haven't you uploaded anything?". > > On 19 September 2013 17:16, Matthew Roth Wikimedia <mr...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > > I read it as being pushy, if not rude. Maybe a British humor thing we don't > > all get? > > > > Matthew > > > > Sent from a mobile communication device. > > > > On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Michael Maggs <mich...@maggs.name> wrote: > > > > It's not rude: it has a double meaning in English. Maybe this would not work > > in other languages. > > > > Michael > > > > On 19 Sep 2013, at 16:59, Osmar Valdebenito wrote: > > > > To me, it sounds very rude. > > I would say something reminding that we are on the last days of the > > competition and that you can still help Wikipedia and win... > > > > Osmar Valdebenito G. > > Director Ejecutivo > > A. C. Wikimedia Argentina > > > > > > 2013/9/19 Richard Symonds <richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> > >> > >> This sounds very sensible. > >> > >> Richard Symonds > >> Wikimedia UK > >> 0207 065 0992 > >> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > >> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered > >> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. > >> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia > >> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who > >> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > >> Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control > >> over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. > >> > >> > >> On 19 September 2013 16:34, Michael Maggs <mich...@maggs.name> wrote: > >>> > >>> As there seems to be little international discussion about updating the > >>> CentralNotice text, I'm proposing in the next day or two to change the the > >>> text for the UK (only) to > >>> > >>> Where have you been? Send us some photos! > >>> > >>> If anyone objects, please let me know. > >>> > >>> Michael > >>> > >>> > >>> On 12 Sep 2013, at 05:10, Karthik Nadar wrote: > >>> > >>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Romaine Wiki <romaine_w...@yahoo.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Perhaps the best place for talking about the banners of the > >>>> CentralNotice is at: > >>>> > >>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/CentralNotice > >>> > >>> > >>> Discussion kicks off there! > >>> > >>> -- Karthik. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Romaine > >>>> > >>>> -------------------------------------------- > >>>> On Wed, 9/11/13, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] drop off in submissions, banner > >>>> To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" > >>>> <wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > >>>> Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 7:45 PM > >>>> > >>>> (oh, and ps: probably native > >>>> countries like the US and GB work very differently than > >>>> non-native English countries. Here participate would > >>>> definitely resonate much better, and 'snap' would > >>>> only be confusing. But that is probably stating the > >>>> obvious) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> 2013/9/11 Lodewijk > >>>> <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I think there are two major factors in our > >>>> image count: > >>>> 1) new participants, people who never edited > >>>> before. 2) super uploaders, people with more > >>>> than 100 images > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The highest contribution to the number of images > >>>> is 2) by a leap. This is mostly people with a reservoir of > >>>> images - primarily in Spain, Poland and Germany. > >>>> The banner has primarily an influence on 1), > >>>> which is also important. I definitely wouldn't mind a > >>>> change in the banner, but I would suggest to let that > >>>> coincide with the drop of Privacy Policy (which was poorly > >>>> situated - the original plan was to run it in August). In > >>>> some other countries, there are more banners competing even > >>>> (like in NL, a conference banner with call for > >>>> speakers). > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Another way than the wording, is the > >>>> design. > >>>> I would suggest we continue this 'what is the > >>>> best banner' discussion on a talkpage somewhere, to keep > >>>> it consistent. Romaine, what would be a good location for > >>>> that? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Lodewijk > >>>> > >>>> 2013/9/11 Michael > >>>> Maggs <mich...@maggs.name> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Both > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> "Snap a snapshot for > >>>> Wikipedia" and "It's a snap, Wiki Loves > >>>> Monuments" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> are the best I > >>>> have heard so far, and they would work in the UK as well as > >>>> the US. Maybe have them both running at 50% > >>>> ? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Michael > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 11 Sep 2013, at 17:41, > >>>> Peter Ekman wrote: > >>>> I too have noticed a drop off in photos submitted > >>>> in the last few days. It's fairly important to > >>>> determine what caused the drop off if we can. It might be > >>>> something totally outside of our control, e.g. the situation > >>>> in Syria, but might be something like a change in banner > >>>> display, which we do have some control over. Did the drop > >>>> happen in most countries? We don't have full control > >>>> over all Wikimedia banners - we do have to share the space > >>>> with others, but perhaps they might be willing to delay some > >>>> of their displays if we ask nicely. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I do agree that changing the banner from > >>>> time-to-time can help. I don't agree that a banner of > >>>> ""Participate > >>>> in the world's largest photo-contest and > >>>> help Wikipedia," > >>>> would help any. The imperative verb > >>>> "Participate" is very weak, and is not natural to > >>>> American English speakers. It suggests a high school home > >>>> economics teacher telling us that we have to bring cookies > >>>> to the annual bake-off. Something more active is > >>>> definitely needed, something along the line (but not > >>>> exactly) of a high school football coach saying "Go out > >>>> there and kick some butt!" That would definitely get > >>>> some attention as a banner, but not the exact type of > >>>> attention we want. A teaser ad might work however, e.g. > >>>> "About your photos on Wikipedia .... (smaller type) > >>>> upload them to Wiki Loves Monuments" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> "Snap" > >>>> might be a verb we want to use. It gives an idea of the > >>>> action that we want people to take (snap a snapshot), unlike > >>>> "participate." So perhaps "Snap a historic > >>>> site, Wiki Loves Monuments" It could wake people up. Or > >>>> maybe "Snap a snapshot for Wikipedia". As a noun > >>>> "It's a snap, Wiki Loves > >>>> Monuments" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I don't > >>>> think these ideas are good enough yet for an actual banner, > >>>> but I think that folks should brain-storm this and come up > >>>> with new ideas. Straight informative banners can sound > >>>> bureaucratic or just boring. Different languages or > >>>> dialects should be considered separately, as translations > >>>> are really tricky, e.g. "It's a snap" might > >>>> mean something entirely different in British > >>>> English > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> PeteUser:Smallbones > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wlm2013-l mailing list > >>> wlm201...@wikimedia.org.uk > >>> http://lists.wikimedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/wlm2013-l > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > > > -- > Katie Chan > Volunteer Support Organiser > Wikimedia UK > +44 (0) 20 7065 0990 > +44 (0) 7885 980 534 > > Wikimedia UK is a Charitable Company registered in England and Wales. > Registered Company No. 6741827. 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