I don't think we will gain that much new contributors using a more prominent sitenotice. Most people just ignore it. Just ask friends and family, do they read that message?
I organised WLM both in Belgium and South Africa, and I have far better experiences attracting people with a personal approach, eg. real life WLM events, our mailing list, Facebook groups. Maybe we can use this mailing list to 'show of' / share more examples? To start of, Belgium will promote WLM during two events: next Monday (Antwerp) and next Friday (upload marathon Gent).Any more events planned? Groeten, Maarten 2013/9/20 Andrea Zanni <zanni.andre...@gmail.com> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Michael Maggs <mich...@maggs.name> wrote: > >> It's not rude: it has a double meaning in English. Maybe this would not >> work in other languages. >> >> I think it's perfect :-) > > Aubrey > > > >> e, it sounds very rude. >> I would say something reminding that we are on the last days of the >> competition and that you can still help Wikipedia and win... >> >> *Osmar Valdebenito G.* >> Director Ejecutivo >> A. C. Wikimedia Argentina >> >> >> 2013/9/19 Richard Symonds <richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> >> >>> This sounds very sensible. >>> >>> Richard Symonds >>> Wikimedia UK >>> 0207 065 0992 >>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and >>> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered >>> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. >>> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia >>> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who >>> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). >>> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal >>> control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* >>> >>> >>> On 19 September 2013 16:34, Michael Maggs <mich...@maggs.name> wrote: >>> >>>> As there seems to be little international discussion about updating the >>>> CentralNotice text, I'm proposing in the next day or two to change the the >>>> text for the UK (only) to >>>> >>>> Where have you been? Send us some photos! >>>> >>>> If anyone objects, please let me know. >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12 Sep 2013, at 05:10, Karthik Nadar wrote: >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Romaine Wiki >>>> <romaine_w...@yahoo.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Perhaps the best place for talking about the banners of the >>>>> CentralNotice is at: >>>>> >>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/CentralNotice >>>> >>>> >>>> Discussion kicks off there! >>>> >>>> -- Karthik. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Romaine >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> On Wed, 9/11/13, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] drop off in submissions, banner >>>>> To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" < >>>>> wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> >>>>> Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 7:45 PM >>>>> >>>>> (oh, and ps: probably native >>>>> countries like the US and GB work very differently than >>>>> non-native English countries. Here participate would >>>>> definitely resonate much better, and 'snap' would >>>>> only be confusing. But that is probably stating the >>>>> obvious) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2013/9/11 Lodewijk >>>>> <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think there are two major factors in our >>>>> image count: >>>>> 1) new participants, people who never edited >>>>> before. 2) super uploaders, people with more >>>>> than 100 images >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The highest contribution to the number of images >>>>> is 2) by a leap. This is mostly people with a reservoir of >>>>> images - primarily in Spain, Poland and Germany. >>>>> The banner has primarily an influence on 1), >>>>> which is also important. I definitely wouldn't mind a >>>>> change in the banner, but I would suggest to let that >>>>> coincide with the drop of Privacy Policy (which was poorly >>>>> situated - the original plan was to run it in August). In >>>>> some other countries, there are more banners competing even >>>>> (like in NL, a conference banner with call for >>>>> speakers). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Another way than the wording, is the >>>>> design. >>>>> I would suggest we continue this 'what is the >>>>> best banner' discussion on a talkpage somewhere, to keep >>>>> it consistent. Romaine, what would be a good location for >>>>> that? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lodewijk >>>>> >>>>> 2013/9/11 Michael >>>>> Maggs <mich...@maggs.name> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Both >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Snap a snapshot for >>>>> Wikipedia" and "It's a snap, Wiki Loves >>>>> Monuments" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> are the best I >>>>> have heard so far, and they would work in the UK as well as >>>>> the US. Maybe have them both running at 50% >>>>> ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Michael >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 11 Sep 2013, at 17:41, >>>>> Peter Ekman wrote: >>>>> I too have noticed a drop off in photos submitted >>>>> in the last few days. It's fairly important to >>>>> determine what caused the drop off if we can. It might be >>>>> something totally outside of our control, e.g. the situation >>>>> in Syria, but might be something like a change in banner >>>>> display, which we do have some control over. Did the drop >>>>> happen in most countries? We don't have full control >>>>> over all Wikimedia banners - we do have to share the space >>>>> with others, but perhaps they might be willing to delay some >>>>> of their displays if we ask nicely. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I do agree that changing the banner from >>>>> time-to-time can help. I don't agree that a banner of >>>>> ""Participate >>>>> in the world's largest photo-contest and >>>>> help Wikipedia," >>>>> would help any. The imperative verb >>>>> "Participate" is very weak, and is not natural to >>>>> American English speakers. It suggests a high school home >>>>> economics teacher telling us that we have to bring cookies >>>>> to the annual bake-off. Something more active is >>>>> definitely needed, something along the line (but not >>>>> exactly) of a high school football coach saying "Go out >>>>> there and kick some butt!" That would definitely get >>>>> some attention as a banner, but not the exact type of >>>>> attention we want. A teaser ad might work however, e.g. >>>>> "About your photos on Wikipedia .... (smaller type) >>>>> upload them to Wiki Loves Monuments" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Snap" >>>>> might be a verb we want to use. It gives an idea of the >>>>> action that we want people to take (snap a snapshot), unlike >>>>> "participate." So perhaps "Snap a historic >>>>> site, Wiki Loves Monuments" It could wake people up. Or >>>>> maybe "Snap a snapshot for Wikipedia". As a noun >>>>> "It's a snap, Wiki Loves >>>>> Monuments" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't >>>>> think these ideas are good enough yet for an actual banner, >>>>> but I think that folks should brain-storm this and come up >>>>> with new ideas. Straight informative banners can sound >>>>> bureaucratic or just boring. Different languages or >>>>> dialects should be considered separately, as translations >>>>> are really tricky, e.g. "It's a snap" might >>>>> mean something entirely different in British >>>>> English >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> PeteUser:Smallbones >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wlm2013-l mailing list >>>> wlm201...@wikimedia.org.uk >>>> http://lists.wikimedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/wlm2013-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >
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