Thank you very much to Philip, Jonathan, Yaroslav, Lodewijk, and Romaine for 
all your input on this issue.  This has now been fully resolved.

Our community truly appreciates what an intricate operation WLM must be at the 
back end to make sure that everything runs as expected on Commons.

Thanks again,
Toni
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    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021, 08:35:56 PM GMT+2, Romaine Wiki 
<romaine.w...@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Hi all,
When there are issues like this, the best is to reach out to me directly as I 
maintain the WLM infrastructure.
@Philip: The template you are referring to is protected for good reason: one 
small error and the full WLM photo contest has a gigantic problem. In other 
words, the template is extremely sensitive. You do not want to know how many 
people think that they can know what they are doing while they are not, 
therefore it is protected. Also working around this template does not solve 
anything, as the cause of the problem is elsewhere.
The error was in the upload campaign itself and someone fixed it there.
On the images uploaded this September I just fixed it with my bot. Not the 
contest category should have been added manually, but the contest template. 

If there are any issues, please contact me directly. Thanks!
Romaine



Op wo 8 sep. 2021 om 19:18 schreef effe iets anders <effeietsand...@gmail.com>:

Because of how everything interweaves, that template is usually only edited by 
Romaine. 
The start and end time for Malta on that template look just fine to me and 
haven't changed in the past week or so. 
If you want to change the start/end time, the way to go about it, is to make 
the change in the list of participating countries: 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2021/Participating_countries
 And if need be, ping Romaine. 
I dont know why Jarekt has created the /dates template? It seems to be a 2015 
attempt to arrive at a different structure, and to the best of my knowledge 
isn't used anywhere. I would suggest to delete it to avoid confusions like this 
one. 
finally, much appreciate the changes made afterwards, but i would recommend to 
use the same system that the templates use, which is to include the template 
{{Wiki Loves Monuments 2021|mt}} rather than the category by itself. That 
maintains consistency. 
Lodewijk
On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 3:46 AM Toni Sant <toni.s...@wikimalta.org> wrote:

Thanks, Yaroslav - 

I think that the last template edit performed by Philip has done the trick.  It 
works!

You can see it in action here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Parish_Church_of_Dingli_during_the_feast_of_the_Assumption_2021.jpg
Thank you,
Toni

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    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021, 10:32:35 AM GMT+1, Yaroslav Blanter 
<ymb...@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 I am a Commons admin, I can edit the template but I would need some better 
indications what to add there.
Best 
Yaroslav

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:28 AM Toni Sant <toni.s...@wikimalta.org> wrote:

Thanks, Philip - 

If I have to create a bespoke template etc. it'll need to wait until tomorrow 
as I don't have the capacity for that today; I'm on the road because of my day 
job until tomorrow morning.  I don't dare attempt something like this on my 
mobile!

Hopefully someone else can pick this up accordingly in the meantime, but if 
it's still unresolved by tomorrow morning I should be able to give it my full 
attention again. It is indeed surprising that such a key template has such 
restrictive editing permissions on it.

Thanks again,
Toni

 

    On Wednesday, September 8, 2021, 10:18:05 AM GMT+1, Philip Kopetzky 
<philip.kopet...@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 P.S.: I just realised that that page does nothing, because the actual dates 
are stored in https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:WLM-is-running, which 
can only be edited by Commons Admins (which is quite an extreme measure and 
relies solely on a handful of people). It might be advisable to create your own 
template in order to still be in control of your campaign (one example of that 
would be https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:WikiDaheim_is_running ). 
Best,Philip
On Tue, 7 Sept 2021 at 14:54, Philip Kopetzky <philip.kopet...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Toni,
mt was missing in 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:WLM-is-running/dates - I added it, 
please try again. The template should be added now during the upload, you'll 
have to manually add the template to the already uploaded images unfortunately.
BR,Philip
On Tue, 7 Sept 2021 at 14:00, Toni Sant <toni.s...@wikimalta.org> wrote:

Hi - 

We're hoping that someone on this list can help us with a very specific issue 
on WLM 2021 in Malta.
It looks like uploads from Malta on WLM 2021 are not being assigned the hidden 
category Image from Wiki Loves Monument 2021 in Malta automatically through the 
upload wizard assigned to campaign=wlm-mt
For this reason, Category:Images from Wiki Loves Monuments 2021 in Malta 
remains empty!

I've just uploaded a test image via the Upload Wizard attached to 
campaign=wlm-mt to double check this.  You can see it here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ugo_Pasquale_Mifsud_statue.jpg
>From what I can see, it has not been assigned the hidden category 
>Category:Images from Wiki Loves Monuments 2021 in Malta automatically. 

I have a feeling that the solution is just a matter of editing a template, but 
I'm not sure which template needs editing exactly.

We would greatly appreciate any direct help or suggestions to fix this.
Many thanks,
Toni

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