Hi Rebecca,
When I organized WLM Portugal back in 2019, the local contest had been
stale since 2011, with non-working and very outdated databases. I decided
not to use Monumental, which already was kind of anacronic and very
bureaucratic to use, and instead exported all the items both from the
former databases and from new/updated databases and other monument &
listing sources into Wikidata, using OpenRefine.
Then I've built the monument lists using Listeria (example:
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2019/Portugal/Lista/Madeira
)
The list allows for direct upload to Commons, even using some useful
default params, like
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/special:uploadWizard?campaign=wlm-pt&id=Q56072118&descriptionlang=pt&description=Casa%20das%20Mudas%20-%20solar%20e%20casa%20da%20cultura%20na%20Calheta%2C%20Madeira&categories=%7CCasa%20das%20Mudas
already filling up a default description, placing the monument ID and the
base category for the monument, among other options and aditional settings
you can use like tracking categories, caption, etc.
For the photo ID, we created {{MonumentIDPortugal|Q56072118}}, which is a
version of the very useful {{MonumentID}} developed by Mike Peel, which
uses the wikidata qid (acting as Monument ID) to fill an infobox with some
useful information about the monument depicted. You can see it in use here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Casa_das_Mudas,_Calheta,_Madeira_-_IMG_20190403_162939.jpg
Using qid as the monument ID has the wonderful and very useful advantage of
freeing it from any official listing ids, which often do not exist at all
for the listed monuments or are otherwise problematic. Just use the qid as
the Monument ID in Wikidata, and you get total freedom on the
identification of your listings.
It may look a bit challenging at first look, but the import, which is the
most difficult and time consuming part, is kind of easy to do with
OpenRefine. For the listing you can steal and adapt the Listeria code from
the example above. Creating {{MonumentIDIreland}} should be very easy and
straightforward, and there you are. This has the huge advantage of after
the initial effort, reducing maintenance to almost negligible levels, which
actually end up getting permanent maintenance, update and improvement from
the Wikidata community itself.
You can also build or adapt other stuff, like monument maps based on
Wikidata using the geolocalization, etc., and many other WLM resources
already work on or include Wikidata monument IDs.
It has been months since I last touched OpenRefine, but there are some very
good tutorials in video, including a number of them by Sandra Fauconnier.
Hope this helps,
Paulo
Rebecca O'Neill <rebeccanin...@gmail.com> escreveu no dia quarta,
23/08/2023 à(s) 15:26:
> Hi all,
>
> After a last minute rescue last year, it looks like we're facing
> Monumental <https://maps.wikilovesmonuments.org/> being unsupported going
> into WLM 2023.
>
> Ireland has exclusively used Monumental since 2017, when Pawel migrated
> our lists into Wikidata using the WLM numbers to draw out the eligible
> sites in Ireland. At this point, we need a simple alternative - maybe
> Wikidata generated lists on Commons? If anyone can give me some instruction
> or ideas on how to go about this I would be hugely grateful (I've never
> created lists from Listeria etc), as otherwise it leaves Ireland without
> anything for users to find monuments or upload them into the relevant
> categories.
>
> Thanks!
> Rebecca
>
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