Dear all, Huge thanks to everyone who reached out to me. I'm delighted that Mahmoud was able to update Monumental this year, but I will investigate the alternatives that have been suggested to me ahead of the competition in 2024.
Thanks again! Rebecca On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 at 21:09, Mahmoud Hashemi <mahm...@hatnote.com> wrote: > Hey Rebecca and folks! Just letting folks know that I just deployed the > 2023 update to https://maps.wikilovesmonuments.org/ , per the GitHub > issue opened this morning: > https://github.com/hatnote/monumental-wlm/issues/54 . > > By all means, feel free to continue exploring and developing alternatives. > I'm not the original developer of Monumental, and the current version of > Monumental has been in maintenance-only mode for a few years now. Without a > volunteer stepping up, Monumental is likely to eventually break beyond what > I'm able to fix. If you happen to know someone, feel free to intro! > > But for 2023, at least, the app lives on :) Happy WLM'ing! > > Mahmoud > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 9:10 AM Paulo Santos Perneta < > paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I understand you already have the Ireland listings in Wikidata, so it >> should be really quick to do the rest. See the Listeria code used for the >> Madeira example, you can adapt it either by hand or with the help of >> ChatGPT. >> Please note that in its current version, you are only able to do a single >> list of groups, so if you need a more complex organization, namely >> subgroups, you need to combine the different Listeria queries for each >> group list. >> >> Paulo >> >> Paulo Santos Perneta <paulospern...@gmail.com> escreveu no dia quarta, >> 23/08/2023 à(s) 17:01: >> >>> Hi Rebecca, >>> >>> When I organized WLM Portugal back in 2019, the local contest had been >>> stale since 2011, with non-working and very outdated databases. I decided >>> not to use Monumental, which already was kind of anacronic and very >>> bureaucratic to use, and instead exported all the items both from the >>> former databases and from new/updated databases and other monument & >>> listing sources into Wikidata, using OpenRefine. >>> Then I've built the monument lists using Listeria (example: >>> https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2019/Portugal/Lista/Madeira >>> ) >>> The list allows for direct upload to Commons, even using some useful >>> default params, like >>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/special:uploadWizard?campaign=wlm-pt&id=Q56072118&descriptionlang=pt&description=Casa%20das%20Mudas%20-%20solar%20e%20casa%20da%20cultura%20na%20Calheta%2C%20Madeira&categories=%7CCasa%20das%20Mudas >>> already filling up a default description, placing the monument ID and the >>> base category for the monument, among other options and aditional settings >>> you can use like tracking categories, caption, etc. >>> >>> For the photo ID, we created {{MonumentIDPortugal|Q56072118}}, which is >>> a version of the very useful {{MonumentID}} developed by Mike Peel, which >>> uses the wikidata qid (acting as Monument ID) to fill an infobox with some >>> useful information about the monument depicted. You can see it in use here: >>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Casa_das_Mudas,_Calheta,_Madeira_-_IMG_20190403_162939.jpg >>> >>> Using qid as the monument ID has the wonderful and very useful advantage >>> of freeing it from any official listing ids, which often do not exist at >>> all for the listed monuments or are otherwise problematic. Just use the qid >>> as the Monument ID in Wikidata, and you get total freedom on the >>> identification of your listings. >>> >>> It may look a bit challenging at first look, but the import, which is >>> the most difficult and time consuming part, is kind of easy to do with >>> OpenRefine. For the listing you can steal and adapt the Listeria code from >>> the example above. Creating {{MonumentIDIreland}} should be very easy and >>> straightforward, and there you are. This has the huge advantage of after >>> the initial effort, reducing maintenance to almost negligible levels, which >>> actually end up getting permanent maintenance, update and improvement from >>> the Wikidata community itself. >>> >>> You can also build or adapt other stuff, like monument maps based on >>> Wikidata using the geolocalization, etc., and many other WLM resources >>> already work on or include Wikidata monument IDs. >>> >>> It has been months since I last touched OpenRefine, but there are some >>> very good tutorials in video, including a number of them by Sandra >>> Fauconnier. >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> Paulo >>> >>> Rebecca O'Neill <rebeccanin...@gmail.com> escreveu no dia quarta, >>> 23/08/2023 à(s) 15:26: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> After a last minute rescue last year, it looks like we're facing >>>> Monumental <https://maps.wikilovesmonuments.org/> being unsupported >>>> going into WLM 2023. >>>> >>>> Ireland has exclusively used Monumental since 2017, when Pawel migrated >>>> our lists into Wikidata using the WLM numbers to draw out the eligible >>>> sites in Ireland. At this point, we need a simple alternative - maybe >>>> Wikidata generated lists on Commons? If anyone can give me some instruction >>>> or ideas on how to go about this I would be hugely grateful (I've never >>>> created lists from Listeria etc), as otherwise it leaves Ireland without >>>> anything for users to find monuments or upload them into the relevant >>>> categories. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> Rebecca >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Project Coordinator Wikimedia Community Ireland <http://wikimedia.ie/> >>>> : wikimediairel...@gmail.com >>>> PhD in Digital Media >>>> Secretary of the National Committee for Commemorative Plaques in >>>> Science and Technology >>>> <http://www.askaboutireland.ie/reading-room/life-society/science-technology/irish-scientists/> >>>> Co-host of *The World According to Wikipedia >>>> <https://headstuffpodcasts.com/show/the-world-according-to-wikipedia>* >>>> podcast >>>> She/Her >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>> wikilovesmonuments-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> wikilovesmonuments-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to > wikilovesmonuments-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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