The AI question is especially interesting. This is important because you could have some people using AI to 'recreate' historic sites as they may have appeared. I'm a big fan of reconstructions like those of Bob Marshall <https://bobmarshall.co.uk/> and think they are fantastic tools for bringing the past to life and helping people imagine how a structure may have appeared - but a good reconstruction involves a talented artist and historical research. Aside from the copyright issues, one generated through AI would likely veer into fantasy. I don't expect that to be common in Wiki Loves Monuments, but it's perhaps worth considering.
On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 at 14:44, attolippip <[email protected]> wrote: > hello, Kasia! > > your question prompted our own conversation locally :) we kind of have not > thought about it before... > > so, our own rules in the WLM Ukraine have two important provisions, though > not specific to AI (rules.wlm.photo > <https://eu-west-1.protection.sophos.com?d=wlm.photo&u=aHR0cDovL3J1bGVzLndsbS5waG90bw==&i=NjVhZmE0ZjY3MDExZmY1Y2Q3NDE3Yjhh&t=WDRGYTBHSDZtWkFFelJyaHdJK2hWKzI2NnVRbmpJYkpYVW52d04wbzBrMD0=&h=dca7ca09d3924eaf9170786fe8f9f0a0&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVbCweAcDQpyMzCCs_fY3sNkvss_F1QaDZQc54fFltUZL-ReO8NJ8mwODa8DCynGClQ>): > > > 5.1. Фотографії повинні бути виконані Конкурсантами особисто / Photos > Photos must not be excessively processed (adding, removing or moving > objects; "artistic blur", collages, etc.)should be self-taken by > Contestants > (...) > 5.7. Світлини не мають бути надмірно обробленими (додавання, видалення чи > переміщення об'єктів; «художнє розмиття», колажі тощо) / Photos must not > be excessively processed (adding, removing or moving objects; "artistic > blur", collages, etc.) > > ideally they would allow us even now to disqualify any "generated photo by > AI", as it would not be "reflecting reality", while allowing us to accept > pictures "moderately enhanced by AI powered tools" if the end product is > useful for illustrating Wikipedia. but we might still add something to the > rules just to be on the safe side > > now, from what I see, a sister photo contest, Wiki Loves Earth > International follows the same logic (Commons:Wiki_Loves_Earth_2024/Rules > <https://eu-west-1.protection.sophos.com?d=wikimedia.org&u=aHR0cHM6Ly9jb21tb25zLndpa2ltZWRpYS5vcmcvd2lraS9Db21tb25zOldpa2lfTG92ZXNfRWFydGhfMjAyNC9SdWxlcw==&i=NjVhZmE0ZjY3MDExZmY1Y2Q3NDE3Yjhh&t=a2R2YkF0c3BTYWlpbEpWYTJXQUdlUzlPNHJzR1BJeFluMzZxRDhTRDZJUT0=&h=dca7ca09d3924eaf9170786fe8f9f0a0&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVbCweAcDQpyMzCCs_fY3sNkvss_F1QaDZQc54fFltUZL-ReO8NJ8mwODa8DCynGClQ>) > in FAQs: > > *Can I use Photoshop or a similar program to post-process my photos before > submitting them? Can I edit photos with AI?* > You can use Photoshop or similar editing programs. The photos can be > edited or processed using any software. But please avoid the temptation to > overprocess. > > If the photo is fully AI-generated, it will surely be disqualified. Please > try not to upload such images for the contest. You can upload slightly > AI-edited images, but do not overprocess them: this is a photographic > contest, not a computer art one. > WLE Ukraine added a note to their provision about photos being self-taken ( > https://ua.wikimedia.org/wiki/Вікі_любить_Землю_2024/Регламент#cite_ref-2 > <https://eu-west-1.protection.sophos.com?d=wikimedia.org&u=aHR0cHM6Ly91YS53aWtpbWVkaWEub3JnL3dpa2kv0JLRltC60ZZf0LvRjtCx0LjRgtGMX9CX0LXQvNC70Y5fMjAyNC_QoNC10LPQu9Cw0LzQtdC90YIjY2l0ZV9yZWYtMg==&i=NjVhZmE0ZjY3MDExZmY1Y2Q3NDE3Yjhh&t=c0hoRUVLbHdkaUpmaHVsR2p2RCtNaEh1eVdaeUZVaGJGYkhsSzJpWC93bz0=&h=dca7ca09d3924eaf9170786fe8f9f0a0&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVbCweAcDQpyMzCCs_fY3sNkvss_F1QaDZQc54fFltUZL-ReO8NJ8mwODa8DCynGClQ>): > > > [2] Зокрема на конкурс заборонено подавати зображення, згенеровані > інструментами генеративного штучного інтелекту. Для перевірки цієї вимоги > оргкомітет залишає за собою право попросити надати оригінал фотографії у > форматі RAW у авторів світлин, котрі претендують на перемогу у викладених у > пп. 7.1. номінаціях / In particular, it is forbidden to submit images > generated by generative artificial intelligence tools to the competition. > In order to verify this requirement, the organising committee reserves the > right to ask the authors of the photographs to submit the original photo in > RAW format for the works participating in categories in 7.1 > > hope that helps! > > З повагою / Best regards, > antanana > Wiki Loves Monuments Ukraine > > Disclaimer: This letter is sent in my Wikimedia volunteer capacity, not as > a Board member of Wikimedia Foundation > > > ср, 28 серп. 2024 р. о 17:53 Katarzyna Makowska < > [email protected]> пише: > >> Hi all, >> >> I am a first time organiser of Wiki Loves Monument at Wikimedia Polska >> and I have two questions. I was wondering if anyone had any experiences >> that they could share about: >> >> 1. Treating drone photography as a separate category. >> We're thinking of making photos taken by a drone into a separate category >> but I'm not sure how to deal with it in a fair way. Can the photos be >> considered in a separate category completely (and not eligible for the main >> category - not very fair for the drone photos) or would they be considered >> in two categories, main selection AND separate categorie, so potentially >> eligible for two prizes and not very fair for everyone else? >> >> 2. The use of AI in photos - have you added any mentions of AI to your >> regulations and if so, where do you draw the line? For example, enhancing >> with AI tools is OK but not generating photos with AI completely? And so on. >> >> I welcome any tips or experiences you might have and wish to share! >> >> Thanks, with best wishes, >> Kasia >> >> >> Katarzyna Makowska >> >> Menadżerka ds. 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