Hi James, Your questions are to the point. We would need to address the wider communities in Wikidata and Commons about this. It's a chicken and egg question that will keep us occupied unless we find a way to deal with it while waiting for the practices to settle.
My question is: What is the advantage of making a notability divide in maps? For all that I know, maps are copyright protected materials. Susanna 2014-09-04 1:25 GMT+03:00 James Heald <[email protected]>: > Just to add, a similar question is where a map is split over several > sheets, that have been individually scanned, eg > https://www.flickr.com/photos/britishlibrary/tags/sysnum000307469 > > or the map of London over pages 8 to 26 of > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:District_ > Railway_Guide_to_London_%281888%29 > > -- should each sheet have a separate Q-number? Or, if each sheet does not > have its own Q-number, does that mean that at least sometimes we need to > store bounding-box information on Commons ? > > -- James. > > > > > On 03/09/2014 22:57, James Heald wrote: > >> At the IRC hour on Structured Data for Commons tonight, >> (log: >> https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2014/ >> wikimedia-office.2014-09-03-18.00.log.html >> ) >> >> Susanna gave the link to the impressive Wikimaps metadata spreadsheet, >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hn8VQ1rBgXj3avkUktjychEhluLQQ >> Jl5v6WRlI0LJho/edit#gid=0 >> >> >> but this made me wonder: is every single map notable, in the sense of >> meriting its own Wikidata Q-number ? >> >> >> For example, consider >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:England_ >> Delineated_%281800%29_by_John_Aikin >> >> >> a set of fairly simple sketch maps of English counties, published in a >> schoolbook in 1790. >> >> >> Should each map individually have a Q-number ? Or instead, should just >> the book and the edition have Q-numbers ? >> >> >> The question is similar to that of books of engravings, such as eg >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Views_of_the_ >> Seats_of_Noblemen_and_Gentlemen_in_England,_Wales,_ >> Scotland_and_Ireland_%281818%29 >> >> >> Should each engraving have an individual Q-number ? Or instead, just >> the book and the edition, with details specific to the individual >> engraving (of which we may have more than one scan) kept on the >> CommonsData page for the file ? >> >> >> For maps there is some clear per-map metadata, even when they are part >> of a set -- for example location, bounding boxes, etc. >> >> Is it right to assume that there will always be a WikiData item for this >> to live in? Or in some cases, would it have to live on CommonsData? And >> will a copy of it need to live on CommonsData anyway, to facilitate >> rapid sorting / filtering of a collection of images ? >> >> >> Have there been any discussions that we know of in the Wikidata >> community about this? >> >> -- James. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimaps mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimaps > -- *Susanna Ånäs *Käyttäjä:Susannaanas Wikimedia Suomi <http://wikimedia.fi/> – Wikimaps <http://wikimaps.wikimedia.fi/> – GLAM <http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM> @ <https://twitter.com/WMFinland>WMFinland <https://twitter.com/WMFinland> / Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/WikimediaSuomi> / Liity jäseneksi! <http://fi.wikimedia.org/wiki/Liity_j%C3%A4seneksi>
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