Another side of the question you brought up is how to treat a map
collection/series vs a sheet. We need a practice for this. You could
probably describe how it is currently handled in Commons.

Susanna


2014-09-04 8:21 GMT+03:00 Susanna Ånäs <[email protected]>:

> Hi James,
>
> Your questions are to the point. We would need to address the wider
> communities in Wikidata and Commons about this. It's a chicken and egg
> question that will keep us occupied unless we find a way to deal with it
> while waiting for the practices to settle.
>
> My question is: What is the advantage of making a notability divide in
> maps? For all that I know, maps are copyright protected materials.
>
> Susanna
>
>
> 2014-09-04 1:25 GMT+03:00 James Heald <[email protected]>:
>
> Just to add, a similar question is where a map is split over several
>> sheets, that have been individually scanned, eg
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/britishlibrary/tags/sysnum000307469
>>
>> or the map of London over pages 8 to 26 of
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:District_
>> Railway_Guide_to_London_%281888%29
>>
>> -- should each sheet have a separate Q-number?  Or, if each sheet does
>> not have its own Q-number, does that mean that at least sometimes we need
>> to store bounding-box information on Commons ?
>>
>>    -- James.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 03/09/2014 22:57, James Heald wrote:
>>
>>> At the IRC hour on Structured Data for Commons tonight,
>>>    (log:
>>> https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2014/
>>> wikimedia-office.2014-09-03-18.00.log.html
>>> )
>>>
>>> Susanna gave the link to the impressive Wikimaps metadata spreadsheet,
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hn8VQ1rBgXj3avkUktjychEhluLQQ
>>> Jl5v6WRlI0LJho/edit#gid=0
>>>
>>>
>>> but this made me wonder: is every single map notable, in the sense of
>>> meriting its own Wikidata Q-number ?
>>>
>>>
>>> For example, consider
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:England_
>>> Delineated_%281800%29_by_John_Aikin
>>>
>>>
>>> a set of fairly simple sketch maps of English counties, published in a
>>> schoolbook in 1790.
>>>
>>>
>>> Should each map individually have a Q-number ?   Or instead, should just
>>> the book and the edition have Q-numbers ?
>>>
>>>
>>> The question is similar to that of books of engravings, such as eg
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Views_of_the_
>>> Seats_of_Noblemen_and_Gentlemen_in_England,_Wales,_
>>> Scotland_and_Ireland_%281818%29
>>>
>>>
>>> Should each engraving have an individual Q-number ?  Or instead, just
>>> the book and the edition, with details specific to the individual
>>> engraving (of which we may have more than one scan) kept on the
>>> CommonsData page for the file ?
>>>
>>>
>>> For maps there is some clear per-map metadata, even when they are part
>>> of a set -- for example location, bounding boxes, etc.
>>>
>>> Is it right to assume that there will always be a WikiData item for this
>>> to live in?  Or in some cases, would it have to live on CommonsData? And
>>> will a copy of it need to live on CommonsData anyway, to facilitate
>>> rapid sorting / filtering of a collection of images ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Have there been any discussions that we know of in the Wikidata
>>> community about this?
>>>
>>>     -- James.
>>>
>>
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