I'd actually suggest the opposite: That the only people eligible to vote for the three elected seats be active participants within the Wikimedia projects. That would drop the staff/contractor and advisory board eligibility. Alternately, let's make everyone eligible, including chapter staff....but eliminate the chapter-appointed seats and have an election every year that involves the entire community.
Risker On 28 April 2013 16:43, Sue Gardner <sgard...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Interesting thread, Itzik --- to be honest, I had forgotten that staff had > been granted the right to vote regardless of edit count. I wouldn't be > surprised if the only staff members who do vote are those who would qualify > under the edit count requirement anyway. > > Seems to me that rather than creating new exemptions from the edit count > requirement, we might be better off to lower the number of edits required > so that anybody who's demonstrated interest in the projects would qualify. > If edits on meta, mediawiki, outreach, etc., qualify, and we were to lower > the edit count requirement, then I think that would be inclusive of > most/all contributors. Would something like that make sense? > > Thanks, > Sue > On Apr 28, 2013 1:26 PM, "Andrew Gray" <andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk> wrote: > > > On 28 April 2013 06:15, rupert THURNER <rupert.thur...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > also agree to simplify the rules. what i'd really love would be to > > > better standardize and with it simplify "volunteer community", for all > > > elections and votes. and at least my wish would be that people who > > > donate their time by sending code patches to software considered > > > essential to run the site are included. > > > > The first elections (in 2004) had a simple "three months in the > > community" rule. After that, we added edit count restrictions. The > > first election with any "complicated" rules - allowing people in > > without passing the edit count limits - was 2008, when WMF staff, > > ex-Board members, *and* "Wikimedia server administrators with shell > > access" were added. In 2011, this got extended to people who "have > > commit access and have made at least one commit between 15 May 2010 > > and 15 May 2011." > > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/en > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/en > > > > So we've already got those in :-) > > > > I'm ambivalent about whether it's appropriate to have staff members > > (those who don't independently qualify as "community members") voting > > or not, but I think in principle Itzik has a very good point - either > > *both* WMF and Chapter staff should be able to vote, or *neither* > > should. I can't see any reason that it's right for a staffer in San > > Francisco to participate in the election, but it isn't right for one > > in Berlin! > > > > (It may be too late to change anything for this time around, of > > course, but it would be great if we could ensure consistency in future > > elections) > > > > - Andrew. > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Asaf Bartov <abar...@wikimedia.org> > > wrote: > > >> Also agree with Nathan. Those chapter board members who are not > active > > on > > >> the projects already have a far greater relative weight in selecting > the > > >> chapter-selected board seats. > > >> > > >> A. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) < > > nemow...@gmail.com>wrote: > > >> > > >>> Nathan, 27/04/2013 21:34: > > >>> > > >>> I would go the other way, and limit the participants in the election > > >>>> for the community seat to people who are members of the volunteer > > >>>> community. Presumably that would include most members of most > > >>>> organizational boards, but only include those staff and other paid > > >>>> workers who also participate as volunteers. > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> I agree with Nathan, simplifying the rules is useful while > complicating > > >>> them for a few dozens voters is not. > > >>> > > >>> Nemo > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ______________________________**_________________ > > >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list > > >>> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org <Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > > >>> Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l< > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Asaf Bartov > > >> Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org> > > >> > > >> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in > > the > > >> sum of all knowledge. 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