2013/5/14 Lodewijk <[email protected]> > I don't think it is trivial either, and having a discussion is fine. > However, the bigger discussion is perhaps more relevant - because AffCom is > simply following WMF policy here, which is in place for many employees, > board members (and others? not sure). > > So I think there are two relevant discussions to be had: First of all, > whether there should be an AffCom meeting at all. Fair question of course. > (analogous you could wonder if certain chapters should really send a > representative to Wikimania from their budget, whether certain employees > really should be there and whether all chapters should be present at the > Chapters meeting - all fair discussions to be had in their time, too). The > second relevant question is, in my opinion, whether the WMF travel policy > is good, proportional etc. This policy has mostly received criticism from > two sides - some think it is too elaborate, and WMF should get 'less > luxury' (again fair discussion, but we should then focus on the whole > question) - another criticism is that it should be equalized for all > Wikimedia-sponsored trips, including individual engagement grants, trips to > the chapters meeting etc. When this question was brought up last time, I > believe it was Sue who mentioned that this would simply result in much less > travel and participation. Again, a fair question. > > Personally, I feel that WMF Committee (and board) members should not be > treated to a lower standard than staff members, simply because they are not > being paid for their work. But maybe I'm the only one in thát opinion > though... > > Lodewijk > > > ps: I wanted to add to that, but hit 'send' too quickly: I am a member of the Affiliations Committee, and might be considered biased for that reason.
> 2013/5/14 Andrea Zanni <[email protected]> > >> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:30 AM, David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law_of_triviality >> >> >> I don't really think this is a triviality. >> Cents and single dollars of chapters are weighted and analyzed, >> FDC and GACs nitpicks and their goal is to assure that donor moneys is not >> wasted. >> We all know that there are issues on that and a lot of chapters had to >> work >> hard to be able to draw their budget, and receive their money. >> >> 40'000 $ for Wikimania travels are a lot, especially compared to the >> travel >> budget of chapters. Period. >> I would assume that WMF and the Board budgets should be reasonably >> proportional to chapters ones. >> Maybe I'm the only one, though. >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
