Well I don't see any problem with starting off by taking a survey
among OTRS users, or in trying to collect data to classify problems
that are reported. Once we know what the "popular problems" are, can
we better help stop the flow of unwanted trash-talking on BLP's.

I think the "underbelly" that we all agree is problematic, could be a
lot less problematic if we kept the BLP's in that underbelly to only
mention the names of other living people if they are also on
Wikipedia. Often the names and activities of non-notable living people
such as former spouses, children, parents, and other related people
slip in to those BLPs in an unnecessary way. Those people are not
always thrilled to see their names on Wikipedia...

2013/12/14, Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk>:
> On 14 December 2013 00:30, phoebe ayers <phoebe.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> I didn't make a comment; I requested information:
>>>
>>>     "Please also provide a link to the consultation you carried out
>>>      with the community, before making this change. I seem to have
>>>      missed it."
>>>
>>> Oddly, I seem to have missed the response, also.
>>
>> Well, with such a pointed comment, I assumed you were trying to make a
>> point about the value of community consultations, so that's what I
>> responded to.
>
> To reiterate, I didn't make a comment; I requested information.
>
> [...]
>
>> So no, we didn't have a broad community consultation on
>> this particular amendment
>
> Thank you for making that clear.
>
>> there have been many related discussions on Commons and
>> Wikipedia over the years.
>
> Indeed there have. But until a widely-advertised consultation is held
> (advertised in the manner of the recent discussion on logos and
> branding), we wont know the views of the community at large, rather
> than those who have an axe to grind. We won't know, for instance,
> whether the amendment goes too far, or not far enough, in reflecting
> the communities wishes.
>
> --
> Andy Mabbett
> @pigsonthewing
> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
>
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