On 10 June 2014 21:30, Kevin Gorman <kgor...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was invited to the meeting Bill refers to, but unfortunately unable to
> attend.  I've talked to a number of the participants though, and would like
> to stress that this is, well, er, not a joke.  The PR-side people involved
> in this are sincere in what they state, and I genuinely believe that this
> is probably the best opportunity we've had to establish a working
> relationship with the PR industry that preserves the integrity of our
> encyclopedia while avoiding stuff like Bell Pottinger, Wiki-PR, and all the
> low level constant PR manipulation that occurs throughout our sites that
> we've ever been presented with.


IME this is from the decent PR people who are really nice, do in fact
know what Wikipedia is and love it too, even if they're the sort of
people who think infographics are excellent things. They're not too
happy with the spammy types either.

(The most effective way I've found to get the point about "bright
line" being a pretty good idea is to point to all the examples of the
media *absolutely crucifying* people or companies for anything within
a mile of a conflict of interest. That's *not* the sort of thing a
decent PR wants on their track record.)


- d.

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