Hi, 2014-06-22 16:00 GMT+05:30 Tomasz Ganicz <polime...@gmail.com>: > It is a bit crazy :-) The use to be copyright holder of these files is > Israeli goverment. But according to the goverment it does not claim > any copyrights as it clearly stated that the these files are not > copyrightable, and it is no longer copyright holder. One can have an > assumption that next Israeli government may change its mind. But the > government can change the mind even if it releases these pictures > under CC-0 waiver. In most jurisdictions the licenses can be revoked > and the non-revocable clauses in CC and GNU/FAL licenses have no any > legal value. > > I mean the absolute attitude of Commons towards copyright freedom of > media hardly make any sense in most jurisdictions. It ignores many > facts and is sticked to some others without clear reasons. This not an > absolute as in absolute terms there is no any single media about which > one can say it is free globally with 100% certainty, and also it is > not any practical attitude really preventing our re-users from legal > problems, as we mainly ignore non-copyright legal issues. This is > rather a derivative of long discussions on Commons which are subject > of group thinking syndrome, which made some arguments kind of dogma .
Yes, good point, and that's exactly what I am saying all the time. ;oD Nevertheless a number of admins and non-admins on Commons still insist that every files on Commons should be free globally with 100% certainty. I think this is a poor understanding of how copyright law works. > 2014-06-22 12:07 GMT+02:00 Andre Engels <andreeng...@gmail.com>: >> So you want them to have a letter "You are allowed to use these images that >> you are allowed to use" but if the letter says that the reason that they're >> allowed to use it is that they are allowed to use it, it is not valid. >> >> Shouldn't we be welcoming free content rather than inventing far out >> reasons to think why they maybe in some way are not free and thus delete >> them? Yeah. I think we need to assume good faith, even from the Isreali government. ;oD Anyway, I think that the matter was handled very poorly by Russavia, who started the deletion request. As I said there, a request to the IDF could have been sent before, and the DR open only later if a negative answer is received. Regards, Yann _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
