hi james, this sounds interesting. the only obstacle i see is that neither
the service nor the software nor the database are open. by using turnitin
we would give up on the principle of opening contents, at least in this
area. this might be perceived bad for opening content, editor retention,
and gaining new editors.

from a turnitin standpoint this might be marketing until they are well
known. as soon their goals are reached there is danger this will be
discontinued or the terms changed to be not acceptable any more.

technical and license obstacles do exist. to properly check wikipedia
editors would need access to restricted content. either content is copied
somewhere in the open, permission granted for all, or in the worst case, a
restricted number of editors.

not to forget is potential link spam. turnitin would put links to a site
not in control of the movement all over the place. they could without
problems put other content behind the links at any time.

but, i do think one could find a less risky and more open way to do check
for plagiarism. one might find better ways to access wikipedia dumps,
better access to recent changes, permission to automatically report back
issues, nitification of contributors and admins. all in a kind of
standardized way (i.e. well defined interface), and most important, usable
by everybody, for free.

rupert
 Am 21.07.2014 04:05 schrieb "Leigh Thelmadatter" <osama...@hotmail.com>:

> This is one of the best ideas Ive read on here!
>
>
> > Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:00:28 -0600
> > From: jmh...@gmail.com
> > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; eloque...@gmail.com;
> fschulenb...@wikimedia.org; ladsgr...@gmail.com; jorlow...@gmail.com;
> madman.enw...@gmail.com; west.andre...@gmail.com
> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Catching copy and pasting early
> >
> > Come across another few thousand edits of copy and paste violations again
> > today. These have occurred over more than a year. It is wearing me out.
> > Really what is the point on collaborating on Wikipedia if it is simply a
> > copyright violation. We need a solution and one has been proposed here a
> > couple of years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Turnitin
> >
> > We now need programmers to carry it out. The Wiki Education Foundation
> has
> > expressed interest. We will need support from the foundation as this
> > software will likely need to mesh closely with edits as they come in. I
> am
> > willing to offer $5,000 dollars Canadian (almost the same as American)
> for
> > a working solution that tags potential copyright issues in near real time
> > with a greater than 90% accuracy. It is to function on at least all
> medical
> > and pharmacology articles but I would not complain if it worked on all of
> > Wikipedia. The WMF is free to apply.
> >
> > --
> > James Heilman
> > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
> >
> > The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
> > www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
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