Hey Pete,

Thanks for pointing me towards that discussion - I hadn't spotted it, and I've 
replied (and apologised for not noticing it) accordingly.

This is definitely a loop worth closing, as it's a right pain to deal with when 
working with derivative images of Wikipedia page screenshots. For a practical 
example, see:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Multimedia_Project_-_Wikimedia_Foundation

I can kinda understand why the software doesn't deal with messed-up situations 
like this - it shouldn't need to do so in the first place. I hope that we as a 
community can fix this by sensible licensing choices, rather than blaming the 
software.

Thanks,
Mike

On 24 Aug 2014, at 20:21, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike --
> 
> Did you see the recent discussion about this at [[Talk:Cheetah]]?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cheetah#Lead_photo_license
> 
> Although Erik Moeller recommended in 2008 (with the move to Creative
> Commons licenses) that we stop permitting new uploads of files on the basis
> of a GFDL license, as far as I can tell, that recommendation was never
> adopted in any policy, so it's still possible to upload GFDL files. (The
> fact that this file happens to also have a CC B
> Y-NC-SA license is not the basis of any WM decision -- it just happens the
> photographer also permits that license.) I've confirmed by private email
> correspondence that this photographer is clear about the licenses he does
> and doesn't want to use.
> 
> Seems like a loophole worth closing.
> Pete
> [[User:Peteforsyth]]
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Michael Peel <em...@mikepeel.net> wrote:
> 
>> I've swapped it for a CC-licensed file that does allow for commercial
>> reuse. Problem solved?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
>> On 24 Aug 2014, at 19:55, Michael Peel <em...@mikepeel.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmm, that file seems to be released under a non-commercial Creative
>> Commons license, in addition to the GFDL. The bug here seems to be bad
>> licensing, rather than bad attribution (since when did we start accepting
>> -NC licenses?!).
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On 24 Aug 2014, at 18:03, Jeevan Jose <jkadav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Try to "download as PDF" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheetah
>>>> 
>>>> Check Image Sources, Licenses and Contributors.
>>>> 
>>>> It attributes File:Cheetah Feb09 02.jpg Source:
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Cheetah_Feb09_02.jpg
>>>> License: unknown Contributors: Fir0002, Peteforsyth
>>>> 
>>>> This is very wrong as license is not fetched  and photographer is only
>> Fir;
>>>> not all people edited that "file" page.
>>>> 
>>>> I raised this complaint earlier (in Commons). This is mentioned at EN
>> too
>>>> by Stefan:
>>>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Copying_within_Wikipedia#For_legal_team_review
>>>> 
>>>> I think this is a serious violation and need immediate attention.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jee
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