Any time I have seen the proposal of a pre-conference in Wikimania, any time I have seen nothing happening.
There are two hackathons per year, one as Wikimania pre-conference and a second one as separate event. In my opinion proposing a preconference will not solve the problem but will add a second conference to the annual one. And the result will be a cost increasing for any Wikimania because in my opinion the Wikimedia conference for affiliated will become more similar to the Hackathon. Personally I have seen a lot of events before Wikimania as pre-conference, the agenda is already full of workshops and activities, there is no sense to add a new one or there is no sense to add a new conference because all these activities will have poor number of attendees keeping low the budget of Wikimania. Regards On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > One additional nice benefit from having the affiliates conference be a > pre-Wikimania conference is that those who don't want to or are excluded > from the affiliate portions of the event can attend other portions like the > education pre-conference or the pre-conference hackathon. > > Can we please move this discussion to Meta? > > Thanks, > > Pine > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Ed Saperia <edsape...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > It would, however, significantly increase the work for the Wikimania > > organisers. They didn't sign up to programme and organise an affiliate > org > > conference, so they shouldn't have to if they don't want to. > > > > Guestlists cause all sorts of politics, but are a necessary evil when > > dealing with limited resources. Choices must be made, and it's up to the > > hosts to decide who gets to come. A mission statement for the conference > > might help alleviate some of the bad feeling, but there will inevitably > be > > some as long as there are fewer places than people. > > > > Ed Saperia > > Conference Coordinator Wikimania London > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On 12 Sep 2014, at 01:44, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I like the idea of having this event be a pre-conference for Wikimania. > > > That may reduce total travel costs and travel time for the people who > > > usually attend both events. This may also simplify planning for people > > and > > > thorgs. > > > > > > Pine > > >> On Sep 11, 2014 5:25 PM, "Pete Forsyth" <petefors...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> > > >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Richard Symonds < > > >> richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: > > >> > > >>> What I'm saying is, let's plan a conference before we argue over the > > >> name. > > >> > > >> > > >> But, most of the people on this list wouldn't have anything to do with > > this > > >> conference -- surely there's a better resource for > conference-planning. > > >> > > >> The thing most of us have a stake in is the name of the conference, > and > > -- > > >> perhaps -- nothing more. > > >> > > >> Pete > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > , > > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Wikipedia: Ilario <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ilario> Skype: valdelli Facebook: Ilario Valdelli <https://www.facebook.com/ivaldelli> Twitter: Ilario Valdelli <https://twitter.com/ilariovaldelli> Linkedin: Ilario Valdelli <http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=6724469> Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
