Wikimedia is a community of communities. So basically Wikimania can be the unique Wikimedia Conference.
But we can come back to the first question. Would we really have a second Wikimania in the first quarter of any year because the name Wikimedia Conference should exclude no one? Would we really have a second big event calling people from all the world and spending a lot of time in the organization and setup? Or probably the best solution would be several (less expensive) regional and thematic conferences called "Wikimedia conference X"? Where people coming will focus on a thematic agenda? There is no problem in my opinion to close the discussion saying that Wikimedia Conference is a name released in cc-by-sa 3.0 and people can use it and redistribute it and modify it. So the Wikimedia Conference as is can become "Wikimedia Conferences 2015 for affiliated", and there may be "Wikimedia Conference 2015 for Asia" and "Wikimedia Conference 2015 for GLAM" and so on. On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 4:43 AM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 11 September 2014 22:07, Charles Gregory <wmau.li...@chuq.net> wrote: > > > ... but the conference has been running for a few years, and has > gradually > > evolved over that time, from primarily chapters, to other affiliate > > organisations, AffCom itself, FDC in recent years, etc. I don't think > > anyone is suggesting any revolutionary changes for the next one? Just a > > change in name to suit the current audience. > > > > What's the problem with the name "Wikimedia" being used? It is, after > all, > > a conference involving Wikimedians. It appears the main complaint is the > > over-generic title "Wikimedia Conference". > > > > Charles (User:Chuq) > > > > > > You are correct, Chuq. "Wikimedia" by itself is the entire movement. It's > not a subgroup of the movement, which is what the chapters and affiliated > organizations are as a group. We don't call the hackathons "Wikimedia > Conference", nor do we call the diversity conferences "Wikimedia > Conference", yet arguably they are even more representative of Wikimedia > (the movement) than this particular conference is; while attendees are > largely self-selected, they are open to anyone who has the means and will > to attend. What's been known in the past as the "Wikimedia Conference" is > essentially a by-invitation conference that is not representative of the > movement. > > It's a big movement with lots of parts. A better argument could be made > for renaming Wikimania the Wikimedia Conference than using that term for a > conference restricted to one small branch of the movement. Many > Wikimedians over the years, particularly those who are highly active in > core movement activities but not chapter/affiliate activities, have felt > disenfranchised and marginalized by having the name of the movement to > which they make their contributions used for a conference at which they > will never be welcome. > > And the other reason for changing the name to be more representative of > what the conference is that it sets the tone for the agenda. The focus of > the conference is, at least in theory, chapters and affiliated groups: what > they can learn from each other, sharing of tools and ideas, making > connections within and external to the Wikimedia movement, etc. It's not > Wikimedia as a whole; it's far too exclusive (and exclusionary) for the > movement as a whole to be the focus of the conference. > > From a different perspective, let's compare ourselves to other conferences > that succeed because of their focus: A conference for gastroenterologists > isn't going to call itself the "medical conference", nor would a conference > for neurosurgeons. They're going to wave the flag that they're focusing on > a specific aspect of medicine. It's what we do with the diversity > conference, and with the hackathons, too. You're not losing anything by > changing the name: you're recognizing the specialty focus of the > conference. > > Risker/Anne > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Wikipedia: Ilario <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ilario> Skype: valdelli Facebook: Ilario Valdelli <https://www.facebook.com/ivaldelli> Twitter: Ilario Valdelli <https://twitter.com/ilariovaldelli> Linkedin: Ilario Valdelli <http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=6724469> Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
