Still traveling, but let me see if I can briefly dispel some of the confusion.
CC BY-SA 3.0 grants users the right to use an image under copyright law. It does not cover trademark rights. The goal of trademark rights is to protect the logo from being used in a way that confuses the public. Trademark protection only covers certain types of uses, which are not the same as use covered with a copyright license like CC BY-SA 3.0. The Wikimedia trademark policy provides how the logos can be used as trademarks and here is some discussion about why it does that: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy-purpose#trademark-purpose . So are the logos "free" under the Free Culture Definition? Yes, because the definition only talks about freedom under copyright law and lists CC BY-SA 3.0 as a "free license." The definition does not mean that users have freedom to violate other types of rights. Hope this clarifies! Yana On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Allan J. Aguilar <ral...@vmail.me> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:15:17 -0500 > Yana Welinder <ywelin...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > To address Allan's question, this does not affect the trademark > > status of the logos as governed by the new trademark policy: > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy. > > > > Thank you, Yana. > > However, as someone who understand little about copyright and > trademarks, for me it is difficult to understand how can a logo be used > commercially and not at the same time, and how can a logo be edited in > any but at the same time it only can be published according to specific > visual guidelines. > > Are the logos Free Cultural Works (as defined by Erik Möller on > http://freedomdefined.org) or not? > - -- > Allan J. Aguilar > ral...@vmail.me - ralgis@freenode - al...@jabber.ccc.de > PGP: B387 F3B1 0F2C F46B 36AD FAFF 7BC3 594D F7C0 E1A3 > OTR: E95CB6E6 22751983 CA8F3F67 3DFACBFF 0FA3A1BC > userralgis@Twitter - User:Ralgis@Wikimedia > https://editandowikimedia.wordpress.com > https://libredebian.wordpress.com > https://revistasifra.wordpress.com/ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJUUcSBAAoJEHvDWU33wOGjFQMQAKbKFyTy/eTJVZp1N/eRlJaK > 2hHUNQVhtUGXWcmRo36bnleEAknhkNUqdO0/J0PdI9UMSTptnUg55WQSmMA5EVuB > b+jne6rGspZXd3qJ1h1TLYAfYI86dXMYuqYKRDOPhyWuWJM/XVDsXueCVWu4M9pc > 0VD24NKcmRIzjRfwIx972yZUUyv7/xabH2REjBbi0SRpAqmnFKb2/KZHQK0j9l4L > HLkO1FXjylAXnLdtZrTy3tvH9XOK/WH/PH2P4uI0aFXvZK8Skw50Iicf2d/6Gn9M > pqFiyq0UVozXrRSP/3HKUJPT52Vcxz0+kPxcMhSpUvocbcUvQQGj5/cDur2za7yf > BGyvPvCQtaip33YpQK2TDexAD7AxsP273RWc8U654PGnNq11C2Vn+goH5AMXFj13 > n+a6q9n4Dw3pO3AjUzIJF+t1nXQfsPCumjVvUTXawF1hEA5qPxAgR+Y3kq69NaPG > gMu9hAVSfCf4T/YibKiMHtRKPO4csiJbs1XfpIUFlXVQ7hhR2Urkjccr5RRRM7nw > jhXMHCqblfxugGvtORgg3o+SZzQB4FKYhb5QLe6vwev36mGzVRDnzncImaLzo1s+ > k3+4yJcPpZONrwAesJ0imC80jiW0IIF0bgRHLCVlh82/f7NN/qmfD2QZUVOdqt+o > lx2rVnQe2AlSkeBnwxb5 > =Xd7+ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- Yana Welinder Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 @yanatweets <https://twitter.com/yanatweets> NOTICE: This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer>. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
